What's your call - player entering without being beckoned?

[dkmz17]

Saw this Saturday at a HS Varsity playoff game. Team A has the inbound on Team B's baseline. Referee is preparing to hand ball to A1 for the inbound. As Referee is handing ball to A1, Coach B decides to substitute and sends B6 up the sideline (Team B bench is on sideline on opposite end from throwin) to report. A1 inbounds the ball and the ball is in play when B6 just runs onto the court without being beckoned and with no horn from the table. B6 never really maade it to the table, but enters the court before midcourt. What is the proper call under NFHS rules?

[Jurassic Referee]

The correct call is a technical foul on B6 under rule 10-2. B6 has to report and be beckoned onto the court.

[Bad Zebra]

Doesn't matter if B6 made it to the table or not...what JR said..."T" will be served.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Doesn't matter if B6 made it to the table or not...what JR said..."T" will be served.

"T will be served" © 2008 Bad Zebra

[dkmz17]

That's what I thought the call should be, but the referees just blew the play dead, allowed the substitute to enter and then had a new throw-in at the original spot. The subsititute was definitely not at, or even in the area of the table,when the ball was provided to A1 for the throw in. Even if one official blew the play dead erroneously, if the crew recognized the error, shouldn't the officials have forced the substitute to wait for the next dead ball to enter?

[JS 20]

Originally Posted by dkmz17

That's what I thought the call should be, but the referees just blew the play dead, allowed the substitute to enter and then had a new throw-in at the original spot. The subsititute was definitely not at, or even in the area of the table,when the ball was provided to A1 for the throw in. Even if one official blew the play dead erroneously, if the crew recognized the error, shouldn't the officials have forced the substitute to wait for the next dead ball to enter?

that can happen sometimes. score keeper blows the horn after it's already in play and if it kind of disorients the players and some of them stop, you may see them kill the play, take the ball OB again and make that sub wait until the next dead ball to enter

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JS 20

that can happen sometimes. score keeper blows the horn after it's already in play and if it kind of disorients the players and some of them stop, you may see them kill the play, take the ball OB again and make that sub wait until the next dead ball to enter

By rule(3-3-1d), you can't make the sub wait until the next dead ball. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[dkmz17]

Similar question - An Official is about to provide the ball to A1 for a throw in or for a free throw that, if missed will become a live ball, and he or she sees a player on the sideline for Team A or B get up, and while talking to the coach start to edge towards the table to report. Should the official hold the ball until the player reports and then allow the player to enter the game or should the official ignore what is going on at the bench? I see this quite a lot, and have even had officials provide the ball to the player for a throw in and then grab it back when they see a player heading to the table.

[ca_rumperee]

Originally Posted by dkmz17

Saw this Saturday at a HS Varsity playoff game. Team A has the inbound on Team B's baseline. Referee is preparing to hand ball to A1 for the inbound. As Referee is handing ball to A1, Coach B decides to substitute and sends B6 up the sideline (Team B bench is on sideline on opposite end from throwin) to report. A1 inbounds the ball and the ball is in play when B6 just runs onto the court without being beckoned and with no horn from the table. B6 never really maade it to the table, but enters the court before midcourt. What is the proper call under NFHS rules?

Two free-throws and the ball at the division line for throw in.
No indirect on the coach, but counts toward team fouls and player fouls.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by dkmz17

Saw this Saturday at a HS Varsity playoff game. Team A has the inbound on Team B's baseline. Referee is preparing to hand ball to A1 for the inbound. As Referee is handing ball to A1, Coach B decides to substitute and sends B6 up the sideline (Team B bench is on sideline on opposite end from throwin) to report. A1 inbounds the ball and the ball is in play when B6 just runs onto the court without being beckoned and with no horn from the table. B6 never really maade it to the table, but enters the court before midcourt. What is the proper call under NFHS rules?

Technical foul. That was easy.