Odd day on the court yesterday...

[tomegun]

Not only does a flagrant seem over the top, you said there was "just nothing to call" in the first half, but went on to say "we should tighten it up a bit" for the second half. This seems like a contradiction to me. What do you think?

[Coltdoggs]

Ahh..sorry fellas...meant FLAGRANT on White for taunting and ready to fight position....Fixed it in my original...

[Coltdoggs]

Originally Posted by tomegun

you said there was "just nothing to call" in the first half, but went on to say "we should tighten it up a bit" for the second half. This seems like a contradiction to me. What do you think?

tom...let me clear that up...there were some plays where nothing to call because some good D was being played and other times where we were "letting them play"....as in there was contact but no real advantage being gained. Perhaps we should have called it a little more closely on the press and out on the permimeter in the first half as that was the crux of both coaches talking to us...White particularly felt his guys were getting fould on the press but they were getting the ball up the floor....so, I don't know...

I was thinking about it yesterday and wondering if some of our no calls led to the kids getting frustrated and thus the pushing match and the Ts? Like I said, Blue Coach (Risley), I've had his team several times over the summer and fall....They are a smart team that play aggressive but don't create a lot of contact resulting in fouls. This was the disparity in the foul count the White team coach was after me about....His team was just more aggressive and drawing more contact that resulted in us blowing the whistle.

All in all these teams were very evenly mathced and I can say that if they played 10 times, they'd probably split 5-5.

Jurassic...thanks for the input...that may have actually been what I should have done...Like I said, the big push came as I was approaching and both players were guilty of the jockeying/pushing, BLUE just lost his cool and and when the clinched fists came out I knew he had to go....

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Coltdoggs

Jurassic...thanks for the input.....

I'm glad that you recognized it as being input and not criticism. It certainly wasn't meant as criticism. You recognized that you had a problem, and you took care of that problem. Can't knock that.

[Coltdoggs]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I'm glad that you recognized it as being input and not criticism. It certainly wasn't meant as criticism. You recognized that you had a problem, and you took care of that problem. Can't knock that.

Isn't the first rule of officiating...Don't take it personal!

I always look at responses on here as constructive....I don't pretend to know how to handle all situations and there are some rules that I don't tend to encounter working lower level and have actually went blank on (take GT and BI for instance)....Although, some of these JRHS kids are some big boys these days! While not uncommon, had a 6'-5' 8th grader not long ago...heck, Greg Oden was close to 6'-10" in 8th grade when I did his AAU team in my first year of officiating.

I try to keep myself open and honest about things/situations I say/do while reffing because, even after 7 years of JRHS hoops and some summer HS stuff...I realize I am still learning. I've been raked over the coals on occassion, but that's how you learn and I'm ok with hearing when I mess it up...I don't consider myself to be a great official, but I am far from a newbie and a portion of my understanding of our craft has come from guys on this board...I may not agree with something that someone says from time to time, but that doesn't mean they are wrong and I am right...it just means that's how they would do it...