unreported subs

[BoomerSooner]

Don't have books, but I'm pretty sure this is an individually based T, so you would have 5 T's. Each player charged with 1 foul toward their 5 for DQ and 5 added to the Team foul count. I would try to aviod this kind of situation though.

[cloverdale]

absolutly would not want this situation...but...is it our responsibility to make sure every kid properly reports in ? I say it isnt...I also believe it is 5 t's not 1.

[BoomerSooner]

No it certainly isn't our responsibility, but I'm sure someone will fire off some preventative officiating tips to prevent it.

[Camron Rust]

If, when coming out of a timeout, there are players on the floor that haven't properly checked in, send them back to the bench and require that the previous players remain. No T. The only thing I could imagine a T for is if you felt the action was an intentional effort to decieve the other team.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

If, when coming out of a timeout, there are players on the floor that haven't properly checked in, send them back to the bench and require that the previous players remain. No T. The only thing I could imagine a T for is if you felt the action was an intentional effort to decieve the other team.

Works for me.

[ma_ref]

By rule, I'd say 5 T's...but if you call this, then you must have a serious axe to grind with the coach from a previous run-in or something. 10 shots plus the ball to the other team. Whoa!

Also, aren't these considered bench T's? If so, that means the coach gets 5 indirects and is ejected as well!

I'd just send them back to the table, tell them to check with the scorer, and then wave them in. If it's after the 1st warning horn coming out of a TO, then if I wanted to be a stickler about it, I suppose worst case I'd make the original 5 come back on the court and the new 5 would have to wait for the next whistle. But I'd avoid 5 T's like the plague.

[mick]

Originally Posted by ma_ref

By rule, I'd say 5 T's...but if you call this, then you must have a serious axe to grind with the coach from a previous run-in or something. 10 shots plus the ball to the other team. Whoa!

Also, aren't these considered bench T's? If so, that means the coach gets 5 indirects and is ejected as well!

I'd just send them back to the table, tell them to check with the scorer, and then wave them in. If it's after the 1st warning horn coming out of a TO, then if I wanted to be a stickler about it, I suppose worst case I'd make the original 5 come back on the court and the new 5 would have to wait for the next whistle. But I'd avoid 5 T's like the plague.

Before the ball is live -> send them back to report
After the ball is live -> the subs are players 3-3-3

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by ma_ref

By rule, I'd say 5 T's...but if you call this, then you must have a serious axe to grind with the coach from a previous run-in or something. 10 shots plus the ball to the other team. Whoa!

Also, aren't these considered bench T's? If so, that means the coach gets 5 indirects and is ejected as well!

No, it is a player T for entering the game without reporting.

At just about every home CYO game I did, the visitors would always have their players at the far end of the table and wonder why we wouldn't blow the horn for them (gee, I have an X in front of me and they never reported to me they were checking in). But unless a kid runs off the bench onto the court, this usually isn't a big deal at this level.

i did have a college game once though where the visiting coach insisted a player did not have to notify the table crew if they wanted to check in.