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Old Tue Feb 19, 2008, 09:42pm
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Since there was a change of possession here, I believe that we go to the point of interuption. A's ball for a throwin with the privlege of running the end line.

My best guess. Your right. Partner's wrong.

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Old Tue Feb 19, 2008, 09:52pm
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Kim -- you were right about no one on the lane, and go poi. B's steal constitutes a change of possession, which means go poi.

Regarding what to say to the coach, I think the best approach is something to the effect that you'd have given team A the courtesy of waiting til their play was through if the situation had been reversed.

btw, good job handling a correctable error. Them's tricky business!
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2008, 09:59pm
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Kim -- you were right about no one on the lane, and go poi. B's steal constitutes a change of possession, which means go poi.

Regarding what to say to the coach, I think the best approach is something to the effect that you'd have given team A the courtesy of waiting til their play was through if the situation had been reversed.

btw, good job handling a correctable error. Them's tricky business!
Definitely one of those nights - we had a intentional foul, player technical, a fan taking pix with a flash (home coach wanted announcement made) my partner had a fan removed early in game - All in a BJV contest.

1 more and I am done!

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Old Tue Feb 19, 2008, 10:04pm
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1 more and I am done!
Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I mean, will you be jonesing in a week or two?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIbp5C-5WXM

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Old Wed Feb 20, 2008, 07:04pm
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I mean, will you be jonesing in a week or two?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIbp5C-5WXM
Rainmaker: Thanks for finding this. I actually still have the 45 rpm record. I didn't know that there was animation to go with the song. The song is by Cheech and Chong, but the animation reminds me of the old Bill Cosby "Fat Albert" cartoons.

Note to young officials: A 45 rpm record is a black plastic disk, about twice the size of a modern CD, that has grooves in it, that are converted by a needle into sounds, on a device called a record player. It contains one song on one side, and must be flipped over, to play the second song, on the flip side.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2008, 07:29pm
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My favorite Cheech and Chong line was when Tommy Chong is walking down a street and some guy comes up to him to see if he wants to buy a watch. Chong replies, "Oh no thanks, man. I'm not into time".
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2008, 07:36pm
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It contains one song on one side, and must be flipped over, to play the second song, on the flip side.
The second song always sucked.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 09:05am
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Note to young officials: A 45 rpm record is a black plastic disk, about twice the size of a modern CD, that has grooves in it, that are converted by a needle into sounds, on a device called a record player. It contains one song on one side, and must be flipped over, to play the second song, on the flip side.
And I *still* can't get over that I don't have to rewind the DVD before taking it back to Blockbuster.

Billy I'm betting you're amazed by that too!
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 09:30pm
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And I *still* can't get over that I don't have to rewind the DVD before taking it back to Blockbuster.
So you make the poor kid working part-time at Blockbuster rewind it for you.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 09:19am
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a fan taking pix with a flash (home coach wanted announcement made)
What was the problem there? All sports photos need flash indoors.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 09:24am
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What was the problem there? All sports photos need flash indoors.
no problem on my end - had home coach take it up with his game management - I am staying out of that one unless photoman is on baseline and he gets in my way. And certainly, that was the least of my problems that night.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 09:34pm
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What was the problem there? All sports photos need flash indoors.
Not true any more. A few weeks ago, a local newspaper sports photographer showed me his new, high speed, SLR, digital camera. With no flash, he photographed the players in the layup line before my game, and showed me the results. Real stop action. No blurred image. And, again, no flash. I believe he said that it cost him a few thousand dollars.
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Old Fri Feb 22, 2008, 12:23am
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What was the problem there? All sports photos need flash indoors.
Not true...there are a few indoor sports where flash is strictly prohibited (e.g. gymnastics). For others, you're too far for flash to be of much use. (For compact cameras...maybe 15 feet. For DSLR's with external strobes, maybe 50 ft.). If it was a fan, chances are the flash was on a compact camera and completely useless.

Also, flash often imparts a very flat and harsh look to photos. For subjects in the photo at different distances, it lights them up completely differently...one too bright, the other too dark.

To get a fast enough shutter to freeze the action with available light, it helps to have a modern DSLR that can do high ISO without encountering too much noise and also have a fast (large aperture) lens.

Some examples of what can be done without flash...

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3/example-images.htm

http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcbo..._id=18225&page=

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=26548248
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Old Fri Feb 22, 2008, 08:09am
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Not true...there are a few indoor sports where flash is strictly prohibited (e.g. gymnastics). For others, you're too far for flash to be of much use. (For compact cameras...maybe 15 feet. For DSLR's with external strobes, maybe 50 ft.). If it was a fan, chances are the flash was on a compact camera and completely useless.

Also, flash often imparts a very flat and harsh look to photos. For subjects in the photo at different distances, it lights them up completely differently...one too bright, the other too dark.

To get a fast enough shutter to freeze the action with available light, it helps to have a modern DSLR that can do high ISO without encountering too much noise and also have a fast (large aperture) lens.

Some examples of what can be done without flash...

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3/example-images.htm

http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcbo..._id=18225&page=

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=26548248
Thanks for the lesson.....but, my degree is in Portrait/Commercial Photography. And I'll change my comment just for you.

"Most" sports photos by mortals need flash indoors.

The OP, I'm sure isn't a SI photog with unlimited resources.

The hockey shot, while nice, is done with a $5k camera and a $2K lens in a controlled "studio" setting. Meaning lights, actors, cameras and I'm sure, hundreds of takes. And let's not forget the $9k F2.8 300 mm lenses for the football games.

So are todays cameras capable? Yes. Is the average person (or even an above average) in the stands with a flash at a HS/MS game holding $7k worth of equipment in his/her hands? Doubt it.

When I shoot a game, I want as much pure light as possible. Every gym is different (mercury, sodium vapor, flourescent, etc.) so I "bounce" a white lightning off the ceilings. No harsh light, no flat flash effect, the whole gym is lit, no funny colors that I have to sit and photoshop all night long and the color is rich.....and NO ONE is even aware a flash is going off..
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Old Fri Feb 22, 2008, 10:08am
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Just to clarify...

In the OP, the basket scored by Team B will still count, correct?
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