Unanswered from 1st year

[Jim Henry]

I guess my question to Tim C is, "Have you ever seen a player run OOB, then come back in-bounds and then receive a pass?" I have twice in 7 years and called the violation.

Unless I miss Tim's point, and not making the call if the player steps/runs OOB and gains no advantage doing so.

[Tim C]

I just tried to answer the OP.

During my college career we crossed over after filling lanes so I think I understood what was asked.

Again, I have never seen it called and would not expect to see it called in games played by shaving aged players.

When I officiated it was explained quite clearly that the "leaving the court" rule was written so a player could not leave the court and "hide out" so that he could cherry pick.

Regards,

[Grail]

Nevada may be right, but only if he is also calling everything else "exactly" by the book. I'm not on the offensive, but do you call 3 seconds immediately when you reach the 3 count, or do you talk to the players and get them to clear the lane. If a player starting up court, completely unguarded is a little slow to release the ball for his dribble, do you call the travel?

In both of those cases, I'm not blowing the whistle. I may get to the 3 second call, and certainly with defense on the dribbler (or trying to be a dribbler) I make the call. But as described above, a quick whistle will also lead me to a quick demotion. It may be different in Nevada's neck of the woods, but where I live, those kinds of calls don't get called unless there is clear advantage.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Tim C

When I officiated it was explained quite clearly that the "leaving the court" rule was written so a player could not leave the court and "hide out" so that he could cherry pick.

Are you sure that you're not confusing this situation with a technical foul for not returning to the court as soon as possible. This is where we see some "hiding out".

When I'm the lead, and I officiate the lead from a deep position, court allowing, and the players go around screens and almost run me over, that's when I start thinking about calling this violation. I was in this situaiton last season, was going to call a violation the next time it happened, but after a foul switch, my partner, without any communication from me, called it first. It took a minute or so to explain the call to a polite, but confused coach.

[Back In The Saddle]

I have called this probably three or four times in my career. Did it once when it was a T because I was stupid enough to believe that because the NFHS made it a POE that it was the right thing for the game.

Since it's now just a violation, I will usually warn a player the first time to "stay on the court." Normally that's all it takes. After that, I'll call it. Just a violation. No big deal.