Did anyone see the Memphis/UAB game last night?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

There did seem to be a few questionable calls down the stretch.

Where was the travel? Isn't a shooter allowed to come down to the floor safely?

Terrible defense on Vaden with his last shot. Should have been penalized, IMO.

If you're going to make that travel call late against UAB, why not call a foul on the last shot by UAB????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im9Jis1rfQM

Dude, I did not see anything on the tape that was other than the "Travel" and you could not tell if that is what was called. It looked like a carry might have been called. I could not see that on the close up what the official signaled.

The last shot the shooter jumped into the defender and no they are not allowed special protection because they are the shooter. If anything that could have been a foul on the shooter. It is not the job of the officials to "protect the shooter." It is the job to see if they fall to the ground, why did they fall. Good no call.

Peace

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Dude, I did not see anything on the tape that was other than the "Travel" and you could not tell if that is what was called. It looked like a carry might have been called. I could not see that on the close up what the official signaled.

The last shot the shooter jumped into the defender and no they are not allowed special protection because they are the shooter. If anything that could have been a foul on the shooter. It is not the job of the officials to "protect the shooter." It is the job to see if they fall to the ground, why did they fall. Good no call.

Peace

Dude, watch the T (if you can't see the signal, maybe that explains your opinion on both of these plays ). He signals travel immediately (not the slo-mo replay). How you have a possible carry is absurd. The guard swinging around reaches out with right hand to catch a high bounce pass and brings it in. Worst case scenario is that right foot is the pivot. He starts his dribble with the right foot still on the ground. Not a travel last I knew....

As far as the last shot by UAB, the UAB player maintained his course of direction all the way through the shot. Defender never had LGP as he was coming in from the side. At 1:39 of video there is space between the players as the UAB players goes up for shot. Defender bails out, trying to take a charge, still no LGP, causing shooter to go down. Dumb play by defender, I'm shooting 3.

I never mentioned anything about 'protecting the shooter'. I asked if, by NCAA rules, the shooter is allowed to come back to the floor safely.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Defender bails out, trying to take a charge, still no LGP, causing shooter to go down

How does a defender bail out and try to take a charge simultaneously. I'm lost on this description.

[IUgrad92]

Bailing out is going down to the ground when not taking any contact from the offensive player in hopes that the official will call a player control foul. A lot of times this results in the offensive player also going to the ground, causing a very ugly play.

IMO, this is exactly what happened on the last shot by UAB.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Bailing out is going down to the ground when not taking any contact from the offensive player in hopes that the official will call a player control foul. A lot of times this results in the offensive player also going to the ground, causing a very ugly play.

IMO, this is exactly what happened on the last shot by UAB.

No, that's what we technically call a flop, technically speaking of course.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Dude, watch the T (if you can't see the signal, maybe that explains your opinion on both of these plays ). He signals travel immediately (not the slo-mo replay). How you have a possible carry is absurd. The guard swinging around reaches out with right hand to catch a high bounce pass and brings it in. Worst case scenario is that right foot is the pivot. He starts his dribble with the right foot still on the ground. Not a travel last I knew....

The video is very grainy and I cannot see anything one way or the other. I see the official signal, but there is not a close up of what the official called or what player did.

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

As far as the last shot by UAB, the UAB player maintained his course of direction all the way through the shot. Defender never had LGP as he was coming in from the side. At 1:39 of video there is space between the players as the UAB players goes up for shot. Defender bails out, trying to take a charge, still no LGP, causing shooter to go down. Dumb play by defender, I'm shooting 3.

I never mentioned anything about 'protecting the shooter'. I asked if, by NCAA rules, the shooter is allowed to come back to the floor safely.

Huh? What in the heck are you talking about? Bailing out? What does that mean?

If anything they shooter was out of control and tried to just throw up a shot. The defenders did nothing wrong but standing there and backing away. That does not mean you have fouled anyone.

Peace

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The video is very grainy and I cannot see anything one way or the other. I see the official signal, but there is not a close up of what the official called or what player did.



Huh? What in the heck are you talking about? Bailing out? What does that mean?

If anything they shooter was out of control and tried to just throw up a shot. The defenders did nothing wrong but standing there and backing away. That does not mean you have fouled anyone.

Peace

Defender was never 'just standing'. Please tell me where in the clip you see the defender just standing there. He was at the side of the offense player until the last second as the UAB player goes up and jumps in front of him. I guess maybe he did a good job of standin' while he was movin'.

BTW, the out of control shooter ended up with 27 or 28 points. Looked like a decent shot from a good shooter with almost enough time to give opportunity for rebound basket.

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Defender was never 'just standing'. Please tell me where in the clip you see the defender just standing there. He was at the side of the offense player until the last second as the UAB player goes up and jumps in front of him. I guess maybe he did a good job of standin' while he was movin'.

Let me put it this way. The defenders did not cause any contact and they were backing up. So in other words, they were just standing there. The shooter was trying to split two defenders and threw up a prayer to have a chance to win the game. I would not be calling a foul on that kind of contact at any point in the game let alone an end of the game situation.

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

BTW, the out of control shooter ended up with 27 or 28 points. Looked like a decent shot from a good shooter with almost enough time to give opportunity for rebound basket.

I do not care how many points he had. I bet he did not take any shots like the one in the video that is referenced here.

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Of course.

Peace

[blindzebra]

I never saw a travel. It just looked funny.

The no-call was a good one. The flop didn't hinder the attempt and the shooter was off balance, so you can't say that he went down because of the defender.

The biggest call may have been was Roberts' foot on the line on the 3 at 39 seconds? It was really close.