School Not Allowing a Woman Official

[loners4me]

corrent I am talking about a St. Pius X Academy in IL. I think there are only a handful nationwide and all follow the same practices.

[rockyroad]

While I think this action is ridiculous, I'm not sure it makes the school "kooks". They certainly are different, but they are entitled to their stances - like them or not. Since they are not full memebers of the KSHSAA, is there really anything the KSHSAA can do to the school as a result of this?

The thing that really grabbed my attention from the article is the lady official's responses - what a class act! She seems like the type of person I would ref with - or walk off the court together with - any day of the week.

[jdw3018]

Yes, the KSHSAA can remove them from their list of approved schools. This would then prevent any full-member school from playing against St. Mary's Academy without some sort of fine/discipline.

Secondly, agree completely about the official - she's definitely handling this well and with a ton of class. I most likely wouldn't have as much.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

While I think this action is ridiculous, I'm not sure it makes the school "kooks".

If they recieve *any* public funding I think this action makes them outside of the law.

And yes they are kooks. Face it, we live in a world with kooks, religious and otherwise. These people are just more of the same.

[jdw3018]

I don't believe SMA receives any public funding, Dan. From what I know about the school, they'd be in violation of quite a few laws if that were the case.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I don't believe SMA receives any public funding, Dan. From what I know about the school, they'd be in violation of quite a few laws if that were the case.

OK, then they're just a bunch of kooks.

Good to know

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I don't believe SMA receives any public funding, Dan. From what I know about the school, they'd be in violation of quite a few laws if that were the case.

In violation of law? I don't think so.

We're independent contractors. No school has to hire any of us. They can choose not to use any official, just as they can choose not to use a certain plumber or electrician.

They're kooks but they haven't done anything illegal as far as I can tell.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

In violation of law? I don't think so.

We're independent contractors. No school has to hire any of us. They can choose not to use any official, just as they can choose not to use a certain plumber or electrician.

They're kooks but they haven't done anything illegal as far as I can tell.

She had a contract and they broke it because she's a woman. I'll bet she's had a dozen calls from lawyers. It's called discrimination.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by fullor30

She had a contract and they broke it because she's a woman. I'll bet she's had a dozen calls from lawyers. It's called discrimination.

Who said she had a contract? Where does it say a contract was broken? or are you just assuming?

[Tim C]

BearfanMike intoned:

" . . . wouldn't the fact that her name is michelle give it away before the game ever came close to starting??.."

Your "American Side" is showing.

I went to high school with Michelle Lau (Gender Male).

Regards,

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

In violation of law? I don't think so.

We're independent contractors. No school has to hire any of us. They can choose not to use any official, just as they can choose not to use a certain plumber or electrician.

They're kooks but they haven't done anything illegal as far as I can tell.

My response was in reference to quite a few of their practices that would place them in violation of statutes governing entities that receive federal funding.

Refusing a female official with whom the school has a signed contract (or, in this case the association that assigns the official) would definitely violate these federal statutes.

My point was simply that the school doesn't receive any federal (or state) money and is therefore able to discriminate in ways any public school (or private school that receives any sort of public funding) cannot.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Refusing a female official with whom the school has a signed contract (or, in this case the association that assigns the official) would definitely violate these federal statutes.

Really? Let's suppose they receive federal funding. Please tell me what federal statutes are being violated because they choose not to hire someone as an independent contractor.

Any public high school in my state (and in most others I'm sure) are free to hire or not hire any independent contractor they choose. We are not employees, therefore laws concerning employees do not apply to us.

[Texas Aggie]

If they recieve *any* public funding I think this action makes them outside of the law.

No, it doesn't.