School Not Allowing a Woman Official

[jdw3018]

I fully expect either their policy will be changed/clarified to allow female officials or they will be removed from the KSHSAA's list of approved schools, leaving them unable to compete against any full-member KSHSAA schools.

If one of those two things isn't the outcome, I'll be very disappointed.

[grunewar]

If, as several of the officials at this game did - refused to work, that would also go a long way to solving the problem! Pretty sad...........

[Scrapper1]

Do they employ female teachers at this school?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Do they employ female teachers at this school?

Yep. Says in the article that women even teach some of the boys' classes. That's what makes this worse...it seems quite inconsistent.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Do they employ female teachers at this school?

Did you read the article?

[Scrapper1]

Does that affect whether they employ female teachers?

[Bearfanmike20]

Using a tennis term here but...

"Stupidity won in straight sets!!"

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Year's ago when I was still officiating H.S. fut bol (soccer) the soccer officials association to which I belonged assigned games for State Line Christian H.S. which was located just across the state line from Toledo in "that state up north" (that is Michigan for all of you people who are not familiar with the greatest college football rivalary in the histor of the game). State Line H.S. is what we called an outlaw school because it did not belong to the MichiganHSAA, but they did play basketball and soccer using NFHS rules.

One year they played host to Lansing (Mich.) Christian H.S., which traveled about 140 miles to play the game and I was assigned as the R in a three-man crew to officiate the game. As we were meeting at the center of the field for the coin toss, the SLHS principal/athletic director walked into our meeting and informed us that the one co-captain for LCHS could not play because she was a girl and this was a boy's soccer game. We all stood there speechless (I know, me speechless) for a moment. And then I told him that he had no control over who LCHS put on the field of play and that we (the game officials) were going to let her play. He said that he would no allow his team to take the field against LCHS if she played. I asked him if that meant he was refusing to play the game. He said yes. I said fine and since we had already received our game checks we would be leaving right now. He said we couldn't leave and if we did he would stop payment on the checks. I told him that if he stopped payment on the checks, we just wouldn't take him to small claims court we would file criminal charges for theft of services against him and the school. That changed his mind pretty quick. We played the game and I never officiated soccer there again.

MTD, Sr.

[force39]

It probably happens in Texas all the time where coaches can scratch
refs, if they don't want women guess what a scratch.

[JRutledge]

We also need to understand that independent contractor laws vary form state to state. So what might be in issue in one state might not be an issue in another.

And based on what I know of this case, I am not sure there is much this female official can do but sue and that might mean other consequences to her officiating career. And I can tell you that many officials are not going to boycott this school because they do not want to subject repercussions themselves.

Peace

[Texas Aggie]

I just wonder. Have they ever heard of a woman called Mom?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

No, it doesn't.

Thank you, counselor. Could you give us more infomration regarding independent contractors?

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Does that affect whether they employ female teachers?

Only to the extent that your exact question is addressed in the article which you may want to read.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Only to the extent that your exact question is addressed in the article which you may want to read.

I don't want to read it, which is why I asked the question. Since nobody will answer it, and I can't be bothered reading about a bunch of kooks, I'll just excuse myself from this thread.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I don't want to read it, which is why I asked the question. Since nobody will answer it, and I can't be bothered reading about a bunch of kooks, I'll just excuse myself from this thread.

The funny thing, Scrapper, is that I'm certain you've now spent more time posting and responding to posts about this subject than it would have taken you to simply skim the article and find all this out.

Also, your question was answered a couple times after your first post (read post #12), yet you posted again asking basically the same question.