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Old Tue Feb 12, 2008, 11:10am
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Bad Call, regardless of situation. Not that technically this wasn't a foul, because by definition, it definitely was a foul. The way this game was called throughout merits a no call in this situation. People were killing each other the whole game, and it was getting let go. Hell, they weren't even calling kicks in this game. But if that official really thought that was a foul, then Georgetown committed murder on Scottie Reynolds right before he turned it over with 5.whatever left.
I heard this morning that they called 40 fouls in that game. So they were hardly letting everything pass.

And if you watch Reynolds drive to the basket, he actually got away with a HUGE push off when he started his drive. The contact after that on the drive to the hoop was not nearly as severe as I originally thought...

Explain, Viper, how you justify giving the ball back to Nova on the OB call you'd have to make if you didn't call the foul.
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Old Tue Feb 12, 2008, 12:14pm
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I heard this morning that they called 40 fouls in that game. So they were hardly letting everything pass.

And if you watch Reynolds drive to the basket, he actually got away with a HUGE push off when he started his drive. The contact after that on the drive to the hoop was not nearly as severe as I originally thought...

Explain, Viper, how you justify giving the ball back to Nova on the OB call you'd have to make if you didn't call the foul.
This is exactly the crux of the matter. If the contact causes a violation or OOB, you have no choice but to call it. If he gives the ball to Nova there (which he would have to if no foul), sure there's only .1 on the clock and we're going to overtime right? Unless of course they throw the perfect lob pass on the inbounds (which is in the FC by the way) and get the winning tap. Or unless there is a foul on the winning tap attempt. Or unless there is a hold on a player trying to get free for the pass. Or unless there is a foul for pushing through a screen. ANYTHING can happen once they give the ball to Nova there. You simply can't do it, regardless of the time.
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Old Tue Feb 12, 2008, 12:29pm
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Real simple, the official had two choices.

1. Call the foul
2. Call out of bounds

no way you can let both of those go. He did the rite thing!
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 05:10pm
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Real simple, the official had two choices.

1. Call the foul
2. Call out of bounds

no way you can let both of those go. He did the rite thing!
If the foul is not called, would the clock have run out before the out of bounds?
Just wondering....
And I'm not saying anything about judgment on the play.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 05:32pm
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If the foul is not called, would the clock have run out before the out of bounds?
Just wondering....
And I'm not saying anything about judgment on the play.
No. The player's foot stepping out of bounds happened just before the whistle was blown, so there's no way time would have expired.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 06:45pm
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No. The player's foot stepping out of bounds happened just before the whistle was blown, so there's no way time would have expired.
However, if you have a patient whistle on the play, and the whistle blows after the horn for an out of bounds call, by rule I don't think that's reviewable or correctable.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 07:57pm
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However, if you have a patient whistle on the play, and the whistle blows after the horn for an out of bounds call, by rule I don't think that's reviewable or correctable.
Maybe, but can you really say you're that aware of the clock that you know it's about to run out?
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Old Tue Feb 12, 2008, 12:37pm
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this play put Bob Donato in a tough situation...looked like he wanted to pass on call, but had to put air in the whistle when the Hoya player was headed out of bounds.....

IMHO, the Precision Timing System is a MAJOR factor in this play that has been overlooked. Because PTS causes the clock to stop the instant a whistle is blown, the clock stopped w/ 0:00.1. If there were no PTS, then the horn would have sounded and the officials could have waved off the foul (saying it occored at/after the buzzer) and gone to OT....just a little "food for thought".
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