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Old Tue Feb 12, 2008, 08:23am
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The only reference on the instruction sheet states "Prepared by the Visualization and Education Committee of the International Association of Approved Basketball Officials, Inc", and that it was revised in September, 2007.
What is the rules basis for these instructions? IAABO is not a rules-making authority. It teaches and instructs on rules developed by NFHS or NCAA. Since the NFHS does not recognize the shot clock, there are no NFHS shot clock rules.

These are the same IAABO rules that Massachusetts had on its Web site, but which have since been removed in favor of an NCAA "instruction sheet" that carries the MIAA logo. http://www.miaa.net/bskshotclock.pdf
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Old Tue Feb 12, 2008, 08:42am
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What is the rules basis for these instructions? IAABO is not a rules-making authority. It teaches and instructs on rules developed by NFHS or NCAA. Since the NFHS does not recognize the shot clock, there are no NFHS shot clock rules.
My understanding is that in cases where a separate state-only rule, like shot clock rules, is being implemented, the governing rules body of that state can implement any rule that they want to. They can go with NCAA or FIBA rules, modify either of those rules, or simply make up their own. And if IAABO has been designated as the governing rules body by any individual state that wants to enact a shot clock, then it is up to IAABO to implement the rules that they want to.

I believe that's true for New York girls, California and any other states that use shot clock rules in high school too. The individual state governing rules body just puts in what they want to.

If I'm wrong, maybe someone from one of those states can correct me.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 11:29pm
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Here in Connecticut, we use a shot clock for both boys, and girls, prep school games. These prep schools use a hybrid version of both NFHS and NCAA rules, although two prep school outside our area uase 100% NCAA rules.
What do you do if there is a double foul and the ball remains with the offense? Reset the clock? Or not?

The IAABO rule does not cover this. It says to reset on a pesonal foul, but is silent about a double foul. The NCAA says not to reset.

Massachusetts uses a shot clock, but the rule is too vague. This is the entire rule:
"The 30-second shot clock will be utilized at all levels in both boys and girls games."
It does not reference the NCAA rule, although historically that was the basis for the shot clock rules. The IAABO shot clock rules used to be posted on the MIAA Web site. But a footnote in the official MIAA handbook referred to a different set of shot clock rules, which mirrored the NCAA rules (and included the double foul rule) with one exception -- there is a reset on all kick balls.

I think IAABO needs to update its instruction sheet.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 07:00pm
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Who then forfeit their voice on the basketball rules committee.
However, if enough states go to it, the NFHS will eventually have no choice but to back down from this rediculous policy.
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