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buildere8 Sun Feb 10, 2008 03:43am

Shot Clock rule in NFHS?
 
I am a new official starting out. I have been searching for shot clock rules in the NFHS Rules book. I cannot find anything on the shot clock, only scoring and timing. Only book that mentions shot clock rules is NCAA. Can someone tell me where does it state that a shot clock is used in High School?

Buildere8

tjones1 Sun Feb 10, 2008 03:47am

You're not going to find it. NFHS doesn't use a shot clock.

buildere8 Sun Feb 10, 2008 04:00am

So who determines if shot clocks are used for high school games? The state associations.

tjones1 Sun Feb 10, 2008 04:11am

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Originally Posted by buildere8
So who determines if shot clocks are used for high school games? The state associations.

Yep.

Nevadaref Sun Feb 10, 2008 07:11am

And there are only seven of them that elect to use one.

JugglingReferee Sun Feb 10, 2008 09:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by buildere8
I am a new official starting out. I have been searching for shot clock rules in the NFHS Rules book. I cannot find anything on the shot clock, only scoring and timing. Only book that mentions shot clock rules is NCAA. Can someone tell me where does it state that a shot clock is used in High School?

Buildere8

Instead of a shot clock, the Fed's way of preventing a team on offense to use unlimited time is via a closely guarded rule.

While in the offensive frontcourt only, briefly:

If a player is holding the ball, and is continually guarded by any defender that is within 6 feet of said ball holder, that ball holder has 5 seconds to legally dribble, pass, shoot, or request a timeout.

If a player is dribbling the ball, and is continually guarded by any defender that is within 6 feet of said dribbler, that dribbler has 5 seconds to start holding the ball, pass, shoot, or request a timeout.

The covering official should have a visual count for these 5-second countings.

Back In The Saddle Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:06am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
And there are only seven of them that elect to use one.

We had the president of the coaches association come speak to our officials association recently. I was surprised to hear him say that they are pushing very hard to get the shot clock here. So.....perhaps it will be 8.

BktBallRef Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:21am

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Originally Posted by buildere8
So who determines if shot clocks are used for high school games? The state associations.

Who then forfeit their voice on the basketball rules committee.

BillyMac Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:59pm

IAABO Shot Clock Rules
 
Here in Connecticut, we use a shot clock for both boys, and girls, prep school games. These prep schools use a hybrid version of both NFHS and NCAA rules, although two prep school outside our area uase 100% NCAA rules.

IAABO—HIGH SCHOOL
SHOT CLOCK OPERATOR’S INSTRUCTIONS
Prepared by the Visualization and Education Committee of the International Association of Approved Basketball Officials, Inc.
PROCEDURES
�� Shot clock shall be used entire game . . . including any overtime periods
�� Shot clock duration for 30/35 seconds per State association
START SHOT CLOCK
�� Throw-In: When an in-bounds player legally touches or is touched by the ball
(Exception: Kicking ball)
�� Jump Ball: When a player gains CONTROL of ball
�� Missed Try: When a player gains CONTROL of ball
�� Missed Free Throw: When a player gains CONTROL of ball
�� Loose Ball: When a player gains CONTROL of ball
OFFICIALS’ SIGNALS
�� RESET: A whirling motion of a pointed index finger above head
�� VIOLATION: Official taps top of head with open palm
WHEN TO RESET
�� Floor violations (except kicking)
�� Intentionally kicked ball: reset as per league or State association
�� Ball hits ring on a try or tap (shot clock stops) reset when team control acquired
�� Opponent secures CONTROL of the ball
�� Personal foul
�� Try/tap fails to hit ring and is recovered by opponent
�� Held ball (if DEFENSIVE team has A/P arrow)
�� Technical foul
WHEN NOT TO RESET
�� Defensive team touches ball, but does NOT gain CONTROL
�� Defensive team causes ball to go out of bounds
�� Defensive team causes a HELD BALL, but OFFENSIVE team has A/P arrow
�� Blocked tries/taps recovered by the OFFENSIVE team
�� Try/tap fails to hit ring and is recovered by OFFENSIVE team
�� Held ball during a throw-in and OFFENSIVE team has A/P arrow
�� Time-out is granted
�� Game is stopped due to injury or loss of glasses/contact lens
�� Game is stopped due to blood rule
�� Any shot at WRONG basket
ABSOLUTES
�� Participate with pregame meeting with referee
�� Be attentive, accurate and maintain focus during entire game, avoid distractions
�� Maintain eye contact with the official responsible for putting ball in play
�� Maintain an appearance of impartiality throughout the game
Rev. 9/2007

BillyMac Sun Feb 10, 2008 01:06pm

Connecticut IAABO Hybrid NFHS and NCAA Prep School Rules
 
FYI, here are our Connecticut IAABO hybrid NFHS and NCAA prep school rules:

PREP SCHOOL RULE DIFFERENCES

Connecticut prep schools follow National Federation High School rules except as presented within this document. There are 2 Connecticut prep schools, St Thomas Moore in Colchester and South Kent in Kent, which use NCAA rules. However, it is recommended to talk with both coaches before each game begins since they may agree to different rules depending on the team they play.

Boy/Girls
�� Two 16-minute halves
�� Visiting team wears white uniforms
�� No players in 1st marked lane space during free throw(s)
�� Players can leave marked lane spaces on release during free throw(s). Free Thrower and players around the arc must wait for ball to hit ring.

Girls
�� 30 second shot clock (see below)
�� 5 – 60-second and no 30-second timeouts
�� 10 second count in backcourt DOES NOT apply. Once the ball gains frontcourt status, the backcourt rule does apply.
�� 5-second closely guarded count applies only to player who is HOLDING the ball.

Boys
�� 35 second shot clock (see below)
�� 4 – 60-second and 2 – 30-second timeouts
�� 10 second count in backcourt DOES apply
�� No shot clock for sub-varsity games

SHOT CLOCK SITUATIONS
The shot clock is NOT RESET if a kicking violation occurs and the shot clock is 15 seconds or higher. If shot clock is below 15 seconds and a kicking violation occurs, the shot clock is set to 15 seconds.

SHOT CLOCK OFFICIATING GUIDELINES
When in doubt, consult with partner
- move away from coaches, players and benches to make decision
- Referee reports ruling to table and both coaches
- other official observes players and moves to where play will resume
Both officials must know where the shot clock is located (floor, wall, top of basket support) and that it starts, runs and resets. Either official can whistle the shot clock violation
Review in pre-game. If you have experience/knowledge, be considerate, not overbearing

If shot clock operator has no or limited knowledge/experience:
- be considerate, welcome individual to your “team”
- review basic duties; do not give an extended “clinic”
- talk with both coaches before game begins
If shot clock operator presents ongoing mistakes, consider:
- removal and replacement
- removal and officiate game with no shot clock
If all went well, share a positive comment

MadCityRef Sun Feb 10, 2008 01:23pm

In the three states I've worked -no shot clocks- rarely does a possession last 30 seconds anyway.
Were the games slow and boring before the clock was instituted?

LDUB Sun Feb 10, 2008 05:50pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac
Free Thrower and players around the arc must wait for ball to hit ring.

Is that what the actual rule reads? What if the ball contacts the flange or backboard before it hits the ring?:confused:

Jurassic Referee Sun Feb 10, 2008 06:06pm

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Originally Posted by LDUB
Is that what the actual rule reads? What if the ball contacts the flange or backboard before it hits the ring?:confused:

The restrictions do end when the ball touches the backboard. That's a basic and Billy knew that.

Now you tell me....do the restrictions similarly end when the ball on a FT hits the flange?

LDUB Sun Feb 10, 2008 06:15pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
The restrictions do end when the ball touches the backboard. That's a basic and Billy knew that.

Not according to the rule Conn. IAABO rules.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Now you tell me....do the restrictions similarly end when the ball on a FT hits the flange?

Yes for an NCAA game.

Back In The Saddle Sun Feb 10, 2008 07:00pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Who then forfeit their voice on the basketball rules committee.

However, if enough states go to it, the NFHS will eventually have no choice but to back down from this rediculous policy.


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