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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 09:36am
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See case book play 4.43.3SitB.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 02:49pm
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See case book play 4.43.3SitB.
minor correction: 4.44.3SitB. No, 4.43.3SitB 07/08
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 02:56pm
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minor correction: 4.44.3SitB. No, 4.43.3SitB 07/08
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There is no FIBA-caseplay for this situation so I have acctually mailed this question on to my mentor to make sure I get it right, but here is what I think
This is a travel based on this rule
25.2.2 Progressing with the ball for a player who has established a pivot foot while having the control of a live ball on the playing court:
▬ To pass or shoot for a field goal, the player may jump off a pivot foot, but neither foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released from the hand(s).

Since it says to pass or shoot for a field goal jumping with the intent to dribble must be a travel
furthermore, if he has a pivot foot established, then when he jumps he lifts it. And if you have lifted your pivot foot you're not allowed to dribble
So this should be a travel
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 12:24pm
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There is no FIBA-caseplay for this situation so I have acctually mailed this question on to my mentor to make sure I get it right, but here is what I think
This is a travel based on this rule
25.2.2 Progressing with the ball for a player who has established a pivot foot while having the control of a live ball on the playing court:
▬ To pass or shoot for a field goal, the player may jump off a pivot foot, but neither foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released from the hand(s).

Since it says to pass or shoot for a field goal jumping with the intent to dribble must be a travel
furthermore, if he has a pivot foot established, then when he jumps he lifts it. And if you have lifted your pivot foot you're not allowed to dribble
So this should be a travel
It's just two lines above:

25.2.2 Progressing with the ball for a player who has established a pivot foot while having the control of a live ball on the playing court:
• While standing with both feet on the floor:
– To start a dribble, the pivot foot may not be lifted before the ball is released from the hand(s).

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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 03:15pm
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but he doesn't have a pivot foot yet
That is why I cited the one below since it shows that it always is a violation regardless of having a pivot foot or not
And I have got confirmed that it is a violation btw (got a response to my mail)
But yes both quotes applies
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 03:48pm
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but he doesn't have a pivot foot yet
I'd be very surprised to see a basketball player jumping off both feet simultaneously. That happens in gymnastics, not in basketball.

Anyway, one of the feet is the pivot foot. If the player jumps, it doesn't matter which one was. I don't know the wording in NFHS rules, but for NCAA it is almost the same as for FIBA.

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