Welmer Drinking game has commenced

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by ace

white jackets?

interesting.

We wear black.

There is an elite association in Illinois with many of the top officials, they have their own 'white jackets' Kind of a special forces type thing.

They may have been banned this year, I haven't seen any, Rut claims they can't wear them.

How about a black jacket with a little bit of white in it?

[mightyvol]

I was the one who found out that Welmer had worked soo many nights about a month and a half ago. Couldnt believe how much he works. Its unreal. I dont agree with it and never will. Not that I dont think he is a good official, its the simple fact that their are other up and coming officials that could be working instead of him. He will easily go over 100 nights and too me that is a joke.

[Adam]

I hate to burst your bubble, but we've been talking about Welmer here for years. And the consensus seems to be, "Who cares?"

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mightyvol

I was the one who found out that Welmer had worked soo many nights about a month and a half ago. Couldnt believe how much he works. Its unreal. I dont agree with it and never will. Not that I dont think he is a good official, its the simple fact that their are other up and coming officials that could be working instead of him. He will easily go over 100 nights and too me that is a joke.

I also hate to burst your bubble, but the coaches want him and several others working their games. They do not want some "young kid" working their games and screwing up their million dollar bonus because they cannot handle a national TV audience. And Welmer is not taking away games from a young guy at all. He is working in the place of another big time official that is just under the level Welmer is. Also if you watch the other officials Welmer works with, they are working a similar schedule. And if Welmer was not appreciated by the schools and coaches, he would not be there. And it really does not matter what you or I think about it.

Peace

[oldschool]

Where did he come from and what is his background?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by oldschool

Where did he come from and what is his background?

Who raised the dead?????

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Who raised the dead?????

Not to worry.

Different Old School.

[mightyvol]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I also hate to burst your bubble, but the coaches want him and several others working their games. They do not want some "young kid" working their games and screwing up their million dollar bonus because they cannot handle a national TV audience. And Welmer is not taking away games from a young guy at all. He is working in the place of another big time official that is just under the level Welmer is. Also if you watch the other officials Welmer works with, they are working a similar schedule. And if Welmer was not appreciated by the schools and coaches, he would not be there. And it really does not matter what you or I think about it.

Peace

Ahhh B.S. There are plenty of others out there that are capable. Im not buying this B.S one minute. How the hell else are the other young guns supposed to get exposure when he does every damn game?

[ace]

Originally Posted by mightyvol

Ahhh B.S. There are plenty of others out there that are capable. Im not buying this B.S one minute. How the hell else are the other young guns supposed to get exposure when he does every damn game?

Theres quite a few D1 guys who frequent this board, and they might not posters but lurkers, possibly even some evals, etc. who work camps you might go to, who might decide if you possibly get to work the D1 level. I'd be careful, because I've learned, stuff you say on the internet can come back to you.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mightyvol

Ahhh B.S. There are plenty of others out there that are capable. Im not buying this B.S one minute. How the hell else are the other young guns supposed to get exposure when he does every damn game?

I am not asking you to buy anything. But the young gun officials are not up for his games. It is a numbers game and Welmer like Hightower, Burr, Ted Higgins (and the other Higgins) are at the top of the food chain. Officials trying to break in are lucky if they get non-conference game between the worst team of the league and a team with so many hyphens that you did not even know that was a school with that name. If Welmer works in the Big 12 on any night in that conference that leaves 5 other games and 15 other officials working games on a particular night or afternoon. And Welmer is not working the two worst teams in that conference, he is working the big game of the night that is featured on national television. Games that are on national TV are not games that do not feature the top teams or the best match-ups in that conference. That is why you are not seeing a bunch of games on ESPN with Nebraska or Iowa State on a regular basis.

I will give you a better example. Last year Ed Hightower got a bad knee injury and Hightower was out almost the entire year. Guess who replaced him? It was not young officials that barely worked in those big time conferences. He was replaced with other officials that had been working in those leagues for years and might have picked up a game or two individually to cover the hole left by Hightower. And if you do not believe me, just look up the information on the Basketball State website and you can look at the schedules of many officials across the country. There are a lot of names on that list and you will see that Welmer is not the only one working games.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mightyvol

. How the hell else are the other young guns supposed to get exposure when he does every damn game?

Earn it maybe?

Welmer did, whether you like him or not.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by mightyvol

How the hell else are the other young guns supposed to get exposure when he does every damn game?

He doesn't do even close to every damn game. There are plenty of other games going on where you can catch the attention of an assignor and gradually get moved up. It's just that you don't see them on TV. There are two other people working with Welmer. Perhaps one of them is doing his first TV game. He worked his way up by starting at the bottom and doing a good job -- just like Welmer did.

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by mightyvol

I was the one who found out that Welmer had worked soo many nights about a month and a half ago. Couldnt believe how much he works. Its unreal. I dont agree with it and never will. Not that I dont think he is a good official, its the simple fact that their are other up and coming officials that could be working instead of him. He will easily go over 100 nights and too me that is a joke.

He works that many games because the assignors want him. More power to him.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

There is an elite association in Illinois with many of the top officials, they have their own 'white jackets' Kind of a special forces type thing.

They may have been banned this year, I haven't seen any, Rut claims they can't wear them.

How about a black jacket with a little bit of white in it?

It is not a claim, they are not allowed by the state. Now just because someone wears one does not mean it is allowed by the powers that be. I see officials wearing the "side-panel" shirts but that does not mean you are not supposed to wear them.

Do not get confused about what is allowed as to what people will do anyway. Just like the speed limit is 65 on most intestate roads does not mean there are not people that will go 85. Same thing when it comes to specific uniform items.

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is not a claim, they are not allowed by the state. Now just because someone wears one does not mean it is allowed by the powers that be. I see officials wearing the "side-panel" shirts but that does not mean you are not supposed to wear them.

Do not get confused about what is allowed as to what people will do anyway. Just like the speed limit is 65 on most intestate roads does not mean there are not people that will go 85. Same thing when it comes to specific uniform items.

Peace

No confusion at all.