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Old Mon Jan 28, 2008, 02:26pm
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OK.. so both are taboo.. so my question then becomes... which is worse??..

signalling with 2 hands.. or going across the body??

What if I goof.. am I to walk across the court as suggested by B.I.T.S.??
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2008, 02:30pm
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OK.. so both are taboo.. so my question then becomes... which is worse??..

signalling with 2 hands.. or going across the body??

What if I goof.. am I to walk across the court as suggested by B.I.T.S.??
I prefer dropping the chop hand and pointing with the other, unless you need to "sell" the call, then the quick across the body can work.

Just be confident and decisive and don't let it happen too often.
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2008, 02:55pm
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OK.. so both are taboo.. so my question then becomes... which is worse??..

signalling with 2 hands.. or going across the body??

What if I goof.. am I to walk across the court as suggested by B.I.T.S.??
Hey, if it's the deaf school, two hand mechanics are accepted and approved!
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2008, 02:58pm
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OK.. so both are taboo.. so my question then becomes... which is worse??..

signalling with 2 hands.. or going across the body??

What if I goof.. am I to walk across the court as suggested by B.I.T.S.??
Given the 3 choices, I'd prefer to watch going across the body.
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2008, 03:10pm
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I just point the direction on out of bounds calls, so I don't have this problem. I know this would be taboo in most areas of the country, so I say it tongue-in-cheek.

Seriously, you want to be facing the court. If the ball is going to the right, raise the right hand and signal with it. If the ball is going to your left, raise your left hand and signal with it.

My FAVORITE official is the one that just raises a hand and says a color without pointing. Followed closely by a point accompanied by a "stays here" or "that way." Gives me great confidence in the call, let me tell ya.
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2008, 03:15pm
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I just point the direction on out of bounds calls, so I don't have this problem. I know this would be taboo in most areas of the country, so I say it tongue-in-cheek.

Seriously, you want to be facing the court. If the ball is going to the right, raise the right hand and signal with it. If the ball is going to your left, raise your left hand and signal with it.

My FAVORITE official is the one that just raises a hand and says a color without pointing. Followed closely by a point accompanied by a "stays here" or "that way." Gives me great confidence in the call, let me tell ya.
Frankly, I've never understood the angst over "stays here" and "that way". They both communicate just as clearly as calling out a color. Which is to say that in my game Friday I used all of them at various times (that way, stays here, white, black) and the home team seemed unable to understand them all equally.
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2008, 03:20pm
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Frankly, I've never understood the angst over "stays here" and "that way". They both communicate just as clearly as calling out a color. Which is to say that in my game Friday I used all of them at various times (that way, stays here, white, black) and the home team seemed unable to understand them all equally.
I have very little angst over mechanics, but this one does drive me nuts. Not sure why, except that it isn't that hard to get the colors right and it does seem a bit more confident you know what's going on.

Someone will mention that "it's in the book" but that reason doesn't really do it for me.
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Frankly, I've never understood the angst over "stays here" and "that way". They both communicate just as clearly as calling out a color. Which is to say that in my game Friday I used all of them at various times (that way, stays here, white, black) and the home team seemed unable to understand them all equally.
Actually seeing the play may have prevented some of their confusion.
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One would hope so. But one would have been frustrated in this case.

I'm very vocal and quite loud. People don't normally have any trouble hearing or understanding me. But there were still multiple occassions where I'm standing on H's baseline, holding the ball, while the other team is setting up to defend the throw-in, and I'm having to ask a second or third time for a thrower. One time, after having called "White" one girl looks at me and says, "I thought you said black." Really? Apparently none of the black players thought so. Another time, after calling out "stays here" and again having to call for a thrower, a girl (possibly the same girl?) says, "Oh, is it ours?" There were other instances in this game. In every case I clearly vocalized the direction and pointed. Maybe I should have asked the H-AC to text the call to his girls?
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2008, 04:35pm
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One would hope so. But one would have been frustrated in this case.

I'm very vocal and quite loud. People don't normally have any trouble hearing or understanding me. But there were still multiple occassions where I'm standing on H's baseline, holding the ball, while the other team is setting up to defend the throw-in, and I'm having to ask a second or third time for a thrower. One time, after having called "White" one girl looks at me and says, "I thought you said black." Really? Apparently none of the black players thought so. Another time, after calling out "stays here" and again having to call for a thrower, a girl (possibly the same girl?) says, "Oh, is it ours?" There were other instances in this game. In every case I clearly vocalized the direction and pointed. Maybe I should have asked the H-AC to text the call to his girls?

Officiating of the future.
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2008, 05:32pm
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One would hope so. But one would have been frustrated in this case.

I'm very vocal and quite loud. People don't normally have any trouble hearing or understanding me. But there were still multiple occassions where I'm standing on H's baseline, holding the ball, while the other team is setting up to defend the throw-in, and I'm having to ask a second or third time for a thrower. One time, after having called "White" one girl looks at me and says, "I thought you said black." Really? Apparently none of the black players thought so. Another time, after calling out "stays here" and again having to call for a thrower, a girl (possibly the same girl?) says, "Oh, is it ours?" There were other instances in this game. In every case I clearly vocalized the direction and pointed. Maybe I should have asked the H-AC to text the call to his girls?
It's stunning to me how, so often after a timeout, a team will come out of the huddle and ask "whose ball is it?" I mean, what was discussed during the 60 seconds you were in the huddle? Post-game plans?

How can players (and it's usually girls who exhibit this trait) not have any clue what's going on in the game?

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My FAVORITE official is the one that just raises a hand and says a color without pointing.
Hey, I jammed some fingers "pointing" into a wall a few weeks ago. Not too much space between the endline and the wall. At first I thought that I broke or dislocated some fingers.
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