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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 10:02am
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Doing a School for the Deaf game is good fer ya.

Really takes you out of your comfort zone as a ref. Nothing is business as usual. Mechanics need to be superb, you can't rely on your voice like usual.

You now have to use signals you learned before tipoff to communicate with the book (signals for color). It also challenges you to call the game fairly, as you have to deal with your own personal issues with any concept of 'handicapped' that you might have. Forces you to sort all of that out in your head.

At the California School of the Deaf, the backboards are 'ringed' with led lights (like NBA has for time expiring). Every stoppage of play the lights light up as a guide for the deaf players.
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 10:23am
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BITS - Wow! Great post. Must have been a very unique and rewarding experience. Thanks for sharing.
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 10:24am
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I have never reffed a deaf person acctually
I have been scorekeeping in a game with a deaf player though, he managed just fine though (even though he had a translator to translate everything the coach said during time-outs).
and this link is quite intressting speaking about deaf people
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/new...8546/arti.html
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 10:30am
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I reffed Indiana Deaf School little guys this summer...I think they were like
5th grade. It was kind of interesting and I admit I was a little uneasy at first. We did take a little more patience when putting the ball at their disposal for throw ins and such. Lot's of eye contact with them really helped out.
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 10:46am
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We have the Washington School for the Deaf in my town...I was down there last night running the 30-second shot clock for their girl's game. I have been down there probably 5 times this season. They are fun to watch. They aren't necessarily all that talented, but they play hard and they are soooo into the games. It's also fun watching the different officials as they try to adjust...the girls coach is hearing, but the boys coach is deaf. He has a hearing assistant coach who is allowed to relay his questions to the officials...last night the coach did not like a call in a close game, so he jabs the assistant and reels off this long sting of signs...the assistant starts laughing and says while signing back "No way am I saying that to him. He'll throw me out." No idea what the coach wanted said, but it didn't get said...

Several years ago they hosted an all-deaf school tournament with schools from multiple states (like 16 or something like that). I reffed a couple of games there...it was almost surreal it was so quiet in the stands...

On a side note, we also have the State School for the Blind here in town. While not having a basketball team, they do have a very competitive weight lifting team and travel all around the country to compete...
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 12:27pm
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...last night the coach did not like a call in a close game, so he jabs the assistant and reels off this long sting of signs...the assistant starts laughing and says while signing back "No way am I saying that to him. He'll throw me out." No idea what the coach wanted said, but it didn't get said...
Yeah, I saw that with my game but it was the players squabbling amongst each other on an errant pass that flew OOB.

Watching the players/coaches communicate with hand signals entirely was pretty neat to see...I know the PG will usually have some sort of hand signal anyway but non-hearing impared players will also vocalize the play set.

I assume during the time out when the coaches hands start flapping and signalling, he's yelling like a mad man?
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 12:45pm
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I worked a deaf school years ago. The trick is to slow down, which is what we should pretty much do all the time.
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 01:36pm
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I've done this many times, once when both teams were deaf.

The key is having solid mechanics.

Also it is important that when you have a hearing vs a non-hearing team, you stress the importance of stopping on the whistle to the hearing team at the captains and coaches meeting...I've gone as far as going into their final huddle before the toss to make sure they all know it.
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2008, 03:40am
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Really takes you out of your comfort zone as a ref. Nothing is business as usual. Mechanics need to be superb, you can't rely on your voice like usual.

You now have to use signals you learned before tipoff to communicate with the book (signals for color). It also challenges you to call the game fairly, as you have to deal with your own personal issues with any concept of 'handicapped' that you might have. Forces you to sort all of that out in your head.

At the California School of the Deaf, the backboards are 'ringed' with led lights (like NBA has for time expiring). Every stoppage of play the lights light up as a guide for the deaf players.
I was there for the first time this week and had to get on the deaf team's coach for being on the court too much and was frustrated I couldn't communicate to the players like getting out of the key. They even had cheerleaders grunting along with the fans and brought out a thumping drum during the full time outs. I guess they feel the vibrations.
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 12:34pm
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I have a question, are there any allowances that are made for a deaf team vs a hearing team?

IE, more time during timeouts? Are there any guidelines on this?
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 01:05pm
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I have a question, are there any allowances that are made for a deaf team vs a hearing team?

IE, more time during timeouts? Are there any guidelines on this?
No "rules" changes. I would be more tolerant of "play after the whistle" and items such as that.
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 02:36pm
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Never officaited deaf team, but did have deaf partner for JV game in Georgia. I had a lot of respect for him. And he could read lips very proficiently! At meetings, he would have an interpreter signing for him. He was some big time college player in Georgia (stories were written about him, don't remember his name though)
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 03:47pm
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Worked a district game involving The Florida School for the Deaf and Blind a few years back. Great kids, great coach. had one snafu where FSDB was making substitutions and someone hadn't left the floor. They've got six players on the floor (we are holding up play waiting for the sixth to get off) and they all have their back to the coach so he cannot get their attention. Finally we got them turned around to see their coach, to figure out who needed to sit down.

The classic moment of the game was when some parents from the opposing team (District game neutral site -- about 15 people in the stands, so you could hear everything) began to gripe about the officials. Keep in mind the deaf school is getting blown out at this point. The parents keep at it, how we're cheating their kids (who are winning by mercy rule), finally during a time-out one of my partners walks over to the parents and says, "what it's not enough that they're deaf, you think they should be blind too." They stopped after that.
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 03:59pm
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I had the pleasure of working a game between a "normal" hs and a deaf school in WI years ago, and it was a great experience. I found that the deaf kids were far more in tune to what was going on than what I feared - I found myself often times OVER signaling, etc and they were like "whatever ref inbound the ball!" They also "listened" to the coaches and were much more disciplined than their non-hearing-impaired opponents...not a ton of basketball talent, but great kids!
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 09:11am
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I work some games in football and basketball for the Iowa School for the Deaf here in Council Bluffs, just across town from where I work. Being deaf myself, I make sure I have partners who are willing to be solid with their signals and mechanics when working their games. I usually find myself catching more grief from the deaf coaches (probably because I play against some of them in regional softball tournaments) than the hearing coaches.

One thing that tickles me, is I've had partners beg me to do the pre-game because I can sign. If it's the first time that partner works a game there with me, I will usually do the girls' pregame to allow my partner to become comfortable. Then, being a bit of a smarta** that I am, I'll tell my partner just before we go on the floor for the boys' pregame he's got it. They always have the deer in the headlights look, but I bail them out by having the coach from ISD interpret.
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