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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:18pm
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Officials Suspended over Phantom Basket

I know one of these officials. He is one of the best in our association. I do not know who was responsible. A valuable lesson for all of us: no matter how much experience you may have, mistakes can still be made.

http://www.wbir.com/sports/story.aspx?storyid=53677
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:29pm
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Yup - anything can happen to anyone. It's unfortunate, but these things do happen. I think someone invented a bumper sticker to remind us of this fact.

Cases like these, imho, are the ones where the officials have a greater impact on the game than intended: it's tough for teams to come back from points that didn't actually happen.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:30pm
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I think this line says it all.

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None of the other officials, the clock operator or either official scorer could verify whether the ball had gone in.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:34pm
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I read the story and I noticed this comment from the losing coach:

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"Disciplining the actions of the officials involved in our game with Wingate does not address the heart of the matter," Carson-Newman Head Coach Dave Clayton. "I'm very disappointed Commissioner Doug Echols has chosen to disregard the real issues in this situation, the student-athletes involved and integrity of the game."
So this leads me to assume that Carson-Newman played a perfect game with no turnovers, no missed shots, and no missed free throws???

Yes...the officials screwed up....they were suspended.

I just wonder if Coach Clayton was on the other end of this, would he volunteer to give the two points back?
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:39pm
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It's a ridiculous error. All of us know it. They deserve to be suspended and they know it too.

PS The same thing happened in boys D2 State Final in CA last season. Taylor King now playing for Duke was the player awarded the basket that didn't go in.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 04:54pm
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What I wonder is if there was any video equipment available?

NCAA rules allow the use of video replay to prevent scoring mistakes and correctable errors (incorrectly counting/cancelling a score)

Would have been an easy fix if they did...
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 07:03pm
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The referee, went to the scorer's table and said to count the basket. None of the other officials, the clock operator or either official scorer could verify whether the ball had gone in.

These bolded words are very important to 3-man officiating IMO. Trail or Center should have verified if the basket should have counted or not. Like someone stated they should have been suspended for this gross misuse of judgement.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 07:11pm
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What I wonder is if there was any video equipment available?

NCAA rules allow the use of video replay to prevent scoring mistakes and correctable errors (incorrectly counting/cancelling a score)

Would have been an easy fix if they did...
The problem is the video equipment has to be available for this specific purpose. And if it was not available within specific parameters, it cannot be used. I doubt seriously that many Division 2 games have this kind of equipment available. I could be wrong, but lower level college is such a mixed bag.

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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 03:34am
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Okay, just for fun, because this would probably never happen. But, what if the coach of the winning team actually does want to teach character to his players and comes over to you, as the calling official, and tells you that the basket you just counted in favor of his team did not actually go in. I know this wouldn't happen, but, if it did, can you use this as an official to change the call and disallow the basket?
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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 02:33pm
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The problem is the video equipment has to be available for this specific purpose. And if it was not available within specific parameters, it cannot be used. I doubt seriously that many Division 2 games have this kind of equipment available. I could be wrong, but lower level college is such a mixed bag.

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I'm sure that they must not have had a monitor available or else they would have utilized it, since this would be a monitor play.

I officiate in a DII conference where we have had several games with a courtside monitor present. Most of those games were being recorded for playback @ a later date.
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