Three Big Sky Officials Suspended

[iref4him]

http://www.helenair.com/articles/200...2012307_02.txt

Interesting article. Any thoughts??

[Adam]

Reinforces the prevaling opinion here that not correctly applying the rules can get you into trouble with your assigners.

[tomegun]

After the NFL playoffs last year I made a comment about the spotlight being on officials and it was met with negative responses. Well, there continue to be issues with officials in different sports and officials continue to be punished. I can say for certain, some officials would not think very highly of a site like this, but we talk about plays all the time and that only helps. This is an unfortunate situation that was probably thought out after the fact and the officials were punished accordingly.

[Old School]

I wonder how do they impose a one game suspension? In basketball, you're mainly working with a different crew every game. So each of these officials next game is off the books? It could be 3 different games at 3 different locations.

I also wonder if the 3 points made a difference in the game, and if not, why publicize the officials mistake? I thought that we are protected by such public discipline. If it cost the team the game, okay, yeah, because the public has a right to know what you are going to do about it. But something internal like that, not sure if it needs to be publicize. Now these guys got a bulleye on there head no matter where they work afterwards. If I'm making a salary like what some of the coaches are making, okay, my mistakes should get magnified, comes with the job. But officials are not getting that type of cake for pay. Why ruin there reputation for something that didn't cost the team a lost?

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Old School

I wonder how do they impose a one game suspension? In basketball, you're mainly working with a different crew every game. So each of these officials next game is off the books? It could be 3 different games at 3 different locations.

I also wonder if the 3 points made a difference in the game, and if not, why publicize the officials mistake? I thought that we are protected by such public discipline. If it cost the team the game, okay, yeah, because the public has a right to know what you are going to do about it. But something internal like that, not sure if it needs to be publicize. Now these guys got a bulleye on there head no matter where they work afterwards. If I'm making a salary like what some of the coaches are making, okay, my mistakes should get magnified, comes with the job. But officials are not getting that type of cake for pay. Why ruin there reputation for something that didn't cost the team a lost?

The Jig is up! You have been busted and you aren't going to weasel your way out of this one. Here are the reasons why this post shows that you have been less than truthful:

1. You wonder how they impose a one game suspension? If you really officiated and assigned at the level you say you do then you would know that any one official can simply be replaced in a game. Just because you replace one official on a crew doesn't mean that the other members, who weren't involved in this game, lose that game. There are a ton of officials chomping at the bit to take these games. If you did college ball you would know that.
2. You thought we are protected from public discipline? Where have you been? Sports officials get called out more than ever when they make a mistake or do something within the rules that the normal fan, coach, player or broadcaster does not know. Again, where have you been?
3. Do you know how much a Big Sky official makes? It isn't chump change. The Big Sky office used to buy the plane tickets so it wasn't as much as some conferences, but they still probably make about 30 times more than you make in your rec games.
4. So you think their reputation will be ruined big guy? I believe the guy who went to the monitor before officials were supposed to do so has several final fours under his belt. Also, I believe the officials involved in the play that created the men's blarge rules are final four officials. If that is ruining a reputation, would someone please ruin mine?

How are you going to backpedal and explain how you could make such - no offense to anyone intended - rookie comments?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tomegun

You wonder how they impose a one game suspension? If you really officiated and assigned at the level you say you do then you would know that any one official can simply be replaced in a game. Just because you replace one official on a crew doesn't mean that the other members, who weren't involved in this game, lose that game. There are a ton of officials chomping at the bit to take these games. If you did college ball you would know that.

If he did high school ball, he would know that.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by tomegun

The Jig is up! You have been busted and you aren't going to weasel your way out of this one. Here are the reasons why this post shows that you have been less than truthful:

1. You wonder how they impose a one game suspension? If you really officiated and assigned at the level you say you do then you would know that any one official can simply be replaced in a game. Just because you replace one official on a crew doesn't mean that the other members, who weren't involved in this game, lose that game. There are a ton of officials chomping at the bit to take these games. If you did college ball you would know that. I do know this. There's a lot of officials chomping at the bit to get a chance.
2. You thought we are protected from public discipline? Where have you been? Sports officials get called out more than ever when they make a mistake or do something within the rules that the normal fan, coach, player or broadcaster does not know. Again, where have you been? I would think that they would try to keep this in-house as much as possible because of liability issues. For instance, if a official makes the same mistakes and his name is not mention in the public forum like the paper, then you might have some credibility issues.
3. Do you know how much a Big Sky official makes? It isn't chump change. The Big Sky office used to buy the plane tickets so it wasn't as much as some conferences, but they still probably make about 30 times more than you make in your rec games. I don't think a Big Sky official is making near the money of a Big sky coach, imo
4. So you think their reputation will be ruined big guy? I believe the guy who went to the monitor before officials were supposed to do so has several final fours under his belt. Also, I believe the officials involved in the play that created the men's blarge rules are final four officials. If that is ruining a reputation, would someone please ruin mine? The question becomes, do you think they will get anymore Final Four appearances because of this? And if they where, you know they're going to be under a microscope, would you want that undue pressure?
How are you going to backpedal and explain how you could make such - no offense to anyone intended - rookie comments?

No offense taken, read the RED notes.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Old School

I wonder how do they impose a one game suspension? In basketball, you're mainly working with a different crew every game. So each of these officials next game is off the books? It could be 3 different games at 3 different locations.

I also wonder if the 3 points made a difference in the game, and if not, why publicize the officials mistake? I thought that we are protected by such public discipline. If it cost the team the game, okay, yeah, because the public has a right to know what you are going to do about it. But something internal like that, not sure if it needs to be publicize. Now these guys got a bulleye on there head no matter where they work afterwards. If I'm making a salary like what some of the coaches are making, okay, my mistakes should get magnified, comes with the job. But officials are not getting that type of cake for pay. Why ruin there reputation for something that didn't cost the team a lost?

I hear it all the time from my college supervisors "accountability." We the big pay checks comes more "accountability!"

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I hear it all the time from my college supervisors "accountability." We the big pay checks comes more "accountability!"

Do a bottle of water and a hot shower come with the paychecks?

[AZ_REF]

Originally Posted by Old School

I wonder how do they impose a one game suspension? In basketball, you're mainly working with a different crew every game. So each of these officials next game is off the books? It could be 3 different games at 3 different locations.

Actually it's not their next game. One of them had a game back at that school that he lost, another lost a game way late in the season, and the third doesn't have any more games this year.

[Scrapper1]

By rule, a decision must be made relative to the time involved. The officials are not permitted by rule to leave 4 seconds on the game clock and repeat the initial throw-in by A1. According to NCAA rules, there are no ‘do-overs’.

What if there's no monitor, the timer is no help and none of the officials had a count? You can't leave it at 4 seconds and have a do-over, but can you leave it at 4 seconds and just continue the game?

Without definite knowledge, how do you adjust the clock?