Handchecking?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Personally, I find old POE's very helpful. They answer questions and give direction. l have no reason to believe that they are no longer valid unless the FED has issued something to the contrary.

Thanks, Jurassic. Would this lead you to call two hands on the dribbler an automatic hand-checking foul?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Thanks, Jurassic. Would this lead you to call two hands on the dribbler an automatic hand-checking foul?

I'm not Jurassic, but I'd call it 99% of the time. (One excpetion might be on a post-player who dribbles into the defender and the defender's hands are close to his/her own body.)

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Thanks, Jurassic. Would this lead you to call two hands on the dribbler an automatic hand-checking foul?

I'm not nearly as old as Jurassic, but yes.

Old POE are definitely still valid and state the proper way to call the game, unless as JR noted the relevant rule has changed or a ruling to the contrary has been issued (such as was the case with the coach instructing his team to foul).

All officials who have a memory larger than that of a squirrel have no problem relying upon the information in past POEs. It's only the less intelligent officials whom I have seen saying that old interpretations and POEs aren't valid.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Thanks, Jurassic. Would this lead you to call two hands on the dribbler an automatic hand-checking foul?

AS I said before, our association trains our officials to make that exact call. If officials call it uniformly, the teams will adjust quickly. As always, the biggest problem we have is the odd official that thinks that the direction issued goes against his personal philosophy and he/she refuses to call it. That just leads to confusion on the defenders' part as to what they can do or not do.

Jmo, but I think that the key is trying to get all officials to call the play the same way, rather than having dueling local interpretations. The players/coaches have to know what to expect; the players in order to play defense and the coaches in order to coach defense.

If an area feels that 2 hands on a dribbler isn't a automatic foul, I don't have a problem with that as long as everybody in that area calls that play uniformly. The problem arises though when you have to officiate teams from areas with different calling philosophies. And those problems lead right back to the reason why the FED issues POE's every year.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If an area feels that 2 hands on a dribbler isn't a automatic foul, I don't have a problem with that as long as everybody in that area calls that play uniformly. The problem arises though when you have to officiate teams from areas with different calling philosophies. And those problems lead right back to the reason why the FED issues POE's every year.

You are wise almost to your years.