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[kbilla]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Question from a "non-college" official.

While I know each situation is different you would certainly have to be consistant and isn't it just easier to call the first?

Funny you should mention this...one comment the coach made was something to the effect of "that happens all the time in the college game and never gets called"...well I thought to myself, it hadn't happened that game prior to this..it didn't happen again after that (thankfully!), and I probably watched all or part of at least 5 NCAA games over the weekend and after my game I was on full alert to see if it happened in any of those games and I never saw it...I don't think I have ever really watched for it much in the past, but I certainly don't think it happens "all the time". I know I haven't had it in a hs game this year, possibly last year but I can't recall. Legitimately going for a block and whiffing and "contacting" the bb is not the same thing as smacking it when the ball is well out of reach...

[kbilla]

One thing I did see in the course of all of those NCAA games though was a blatant violation of the inbound plane that was ignored...can't remember which game it was, but A's ball inbounding from the endline, B is jumping up and down and when he lands, both of his feet are not just on the line, but about 3/4 of the way OVER the line, not to mention his hands which are even further through the plane...granted A1 had plenty of room behind him and he just backed up, but still...to my knowledge this is administered the same as NF with a team warnign and then a team T (indirect) - again to you seasoned college guys is this just a no call? At lease assuming there is room behind the inbounder?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by kbilla

One thing I did see in the course of all of those NCAA games though was a blatant violation of the inbound plane that was ignored...can't remember which game it was, but A's ball inbounding from the endline, B is jumping up and down and when he lands, both of his feet are not just on the line, but about 3/4 of the way OVER the line, not to mention his hands which are even further through the plane...granted A1 had plenty of room behind him and he just backed up, but still...to my knowledge this is administered the same as NF with a team warnign and then a team T (indirect) - again to you seasoned college guys is this just a no call? At lease assuming there is room behind the inbounder?

You need to check the NCAA rule.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You need to check the NCAA rule.

Geez make me work OK, I see 7.6.6.b where the rule is the same as far as an opponent not having any part of his or her person over the inside plane of the boundary line, so what I was seeing was at least a violation that was not called...I see where it is an indirect tech to reach through and touch the ball in 10.3.8, but I don't see anywhere that indicates the penalty for 7.6.b specifically? Help?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by kbilla

Geez make me work OK, I see 7.6.6.b where the rule is the same as far as an opponent not having any part of his or her person over the inside plane of the boundary line, so what I was seeing was at least a violation that was not called...I see where it is an indirect tech to reach through and touch the ball in 10.3.8, but I don't see anywhere that indicates the penalty for 7.6.b specifically? Help?

Hint: Violations are in rule 9.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Hint: Violations are in rule 9.

Are you referring to 9.15? So the penalty would just be award the ball back to A? But A already had the ball so what is the penalty? Or are you saying this is why they never call it/blow it dead unless it is really inhibiting the thrower because there isn't really a penalty?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by kbilla

Are you referring to 9.15? So the penalty would just be award the ball back to A? But A already had the ball so what is the penalty? Or are you saying this is why they never call it/blow it dead unless it is really inhibiting the thrower because there isn't really a penalty?

Now you're learning.

I'm continually amazed by the number of people working college games who don't know the rules. I guess the assignors expect them to learn as they go or perhaps they expect us to teach them.