The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 09:04am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: WI
Posts: 825
More assistants than subs

VB game Friday night. Visiting team has 10 players - 5 subs on bench and 6 assistant coaches. From the tip they were complaining on every whistle. I know the head coach who is also an official. I've worked games with him. Anyway - about 2 minutes into the game I whistle and OOB right in front of the bench. While waiting for teams to get into place I quietly turned and told him that I would listen to him but had better not hear another chirp from bench personnel or it would be one T for every open mouth. He nodded and put the stop sign out to AC.

As teams were coming out after half each of the AC came to me and apologized. One, and older gentleman put his arm around me and said that the HC had informed them that they needed to be quiet - it was not the officials fault that his team couldn't shoot or handle the ball - that it was their job to teach them.

Every once in awhile you get a really good night! This is one case where it was nice the HC was also an official and understood where I was coming from.
__________________
When I want your opinion - I'll give it to you!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 12:46pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 944
I find this surprising. Don't most HS leagues have a restriction on how many assistant coaches are permitted on the bench? Six ACs on the bench?
__________________
I couldn't afford a cool signature, so I just got this one.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 01:01pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: WI
Posts: 825
I think it's part of a game he plays. He puts 6 of them on the bench and they chip ..... he remains quiet. I've spoken to a few others in my association that have had him this year and they said it continued all game and "was a distraction". I don't know why - I quietly spoke with HC and no more problems.
__________________
When I want your opinion - I'll give it to you!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 01:19pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 9,466
Send a message via AIM to rainmaker
Quote:
Originally Posted by chartrusepengui
I think it's part of a game he plays. He puts 6 of them on the bench and they chip ..... he remains quiet. I've spoken to a few others in my association that have had him this year and they said it continued all game and "was a distraction". I don't know why - I quietly spoke with HC and no more problems.
If he's an official and he does this then he's being a %%$#@, imo. Next time you ref him, whack at the first chirp, without warning. At least, that's what the voices in my head say.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 01:23pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: WI
Posts: 825
January 19th is that day. Can hardly wait to see if they even try this little ploy that evening! He should really know better and should know my partner and I better!
__________________
When I want your opinion - I'll give it to you!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 01:25pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 9,466
Send a message via AIM to rainmaker
Quote:
Originally Posted by chartrusepengui
January 19th is that day. Can hardly wait to see if they even try this little ploy that evening! He should really know better and should know my partner and I better!
Maybe we should all come and cheer for you when you whack him! In fairness, we could also cheer for him if he never needs it.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 01:29pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: WI
Posts: 825
The funny part is - he'd be the first guy to whack you if you did it to him! He just likes to see how far an official can be pushed - and will use it to his advantage.
__________________
When I want your opinion - I'll give it to you!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 02:10pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,557
Quote:
Originally Posted by rainmaker
If he's an official and he does this then he's being a %%$#@, imo. Next time you ref him, whack at the first chirp, without warning. At least, that's what the voices in my head say.
Why on earth would you do that? You shouldn't carry stuff like this over from one game to another. I can understand discussing the ACs in pregame, and how its going to be handled, but an "automatic T" for some minor chirping from coaches is a litlte overboard. You really shouldn't listen to the voices in your head.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 02:22pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 9,466
Send a message via AIM to rainmaker
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snake~eyes
Why on earth would you do that? You shouldn't carry stuff like this over from one game to another. I can understand discussing the ACs in pregame, and how its going to be handled, but an "automatic T" for some minor chirping from coaches is a litlte overboard. You really shouldn't listen to the voices in your head.
Well, doesn't it depend on which voice? I mean, there are a couple that say I shouldn't listen to the others! PS sorry I forgot the smilie on my previous post. I was mostly kidding.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 02:44pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: WI
Posts: 825
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snake~eyes
Why on earth would you do that? You shouldn't carry stuff like this over from one game to another. I can understand discussing the ACs in pregame, and how its going to be handled, but an "automatic T" for some minor chirping from coaches is a litlte overboard. You really shouldn't listen to the voices in your head.
Trust me - these guys aren't doing any "minor" chirping - they take their chirping seriously!! I don't personally carry this over from one game to another BUT it will be interesting to see if I need to put up stop sign or say "only you" to the HC again. After I've said it once - WHACK - unless of course what an assistant said was deserving of it immediately.
__________________
When I want your opinion - I'll give it to you!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 03:38pm
certified Hot Mom tester
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
Exclamation

Quote:
Originally Posted by chartrusepengui
One, and older gentleman put his arm around me
He wasn't also tapping his foot, was he?
__________________
Yom HaShoah
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 03:54pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SW Kansas
Posts: 728
As long as it wasn't this guy, you SHOULD be ok....
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 09:16pm
Aleve Titles to Others
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: East Westchester of the Southern Conference
Posts: 5,381
Send a message via AIM to 26 Year Gap
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
He wasn't also tapping his foot, was he?
He is in Wisconsi.
__________________
Never hit a piñata if you see hornets flying out of it.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 09:27pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,472
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snake~eyes
Why on earth would you do that? You shouldn't carry stuff like this over from one game to another. I can understand discussing the ACs in pregame, and how its going to be handled, but an "automatic T" for some minor chirping from coaches is a litlte overboard. You really shouldn't listen to the voices in your head.
First of all AC should not be saying anything to officials period. Secondly, you are right that they should get a clean slate, but if you know how they behave, sometimes a short leash is acceptable the next time you see them. It is obvious no one has been sticking them for their behavior. If they had been given a T, maybe they would not go around running their mouth. And we all know coaches do not just forget, so why should we? Now I would make them earn it, but I would not tolerate the same behavior the next time. I really would feel that way if I let them get away.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 09:49pm
Aleve Titles to Others
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: East Westchester of the Southern Conference
Posts: 5,381
Send a message via AIM to 26 Year Gap
Really nothing different than remembering player tendencies.
__________________
Never hit a piñata if you see hornets flying out of it.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Subs on an injury RefLarry Basketball 67 Tue Jun 12, 2007 02:11pm
Subs wadeintothem Softball 3 Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:01am
Subs Bill from Minn Basketball 4 Sat Jan 20, 2007 03:52pm
Subs during 1 and 1 Jim Henry Basketball 12 Tue Dec 06, 2005 02:33pm
Subs with DP/FLEX Dakota Softball 15 Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:16pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:35am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1