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I think we take this advantage/disadvantage concept; philsophy; criteria too far when it comes to making the proper call regardless of how much time is on the clock. The OP made a call which is very clear some DO NOT HAVE THE GUTS to make.
Assignor: I seen the game; good game until towards the end there was a foul which should have been called. (Displacement) POE Official: Yeah, I was applying A/DAD because there was only 4.9 seconds left to play in the game. This would go over well. I understand where CoachP is coming from. To be able to identify that when it's close to closing time( game ending) some official(s) just wants to get the game over with and go home. This is the area of the game in which officials need to be more attentive. The closing seconds of a close game. Every officials should manage the game from opening whistle to final horn and then observe the hand shakes at the end. In the OP close game, a physical play happen DISPLACEMENT which is a Point of Emphasis this year. Great call!!!
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That's what Dan is saying. Fwiw, I agree with him. |
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Now, that said, we had two calls much like the OP in tonight's game. We also had several "no calls" when the "block out" wasn't as severe. |
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FWIW, according to the OP, the foul occurred while the ball was in flight. From the way I read the post, the push/displacement thus occurred prior to the ball entering the hoop. If this is the case, then the official would have no idea of the advantage/disadvantage of the ball going in when he observed the foul. IMO, if the contact warranted a foul, with the ball still in the air, cracking the whistle is the right move.
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Rule 4-27-3--"Similarly, contact which does not hinder the opponent from participating in normal defensive or offensive movements should be considered incidental". Just because you have "displacement" doesn't mean that the displacement will always be a foul. It will be a foul sometimes. That's all I'm trying to say. We've had numerous threads where posters espouse the virtues of officials having a patient whistle and also seeing a play out. If you do have a patient whistle and see this play out, and the ball does go in, and the player displaced is immediately able to resume their normal offensive or defensive duties, and if the contact was not rough or excessive, should a foul be called? In my opinion, in that particular case, no. Note the "in my opinion". Btw, it's not really a good idea to try and back up your own view by saying that assignors agree with you, unless you are an assignor and you also know that the great majority of assignors also hold that view. Btw, fwiw the POE that you are referencing specifically is concerned with 2 situations- post play and screening- where the displacement is also definitely putting an opponent at a disadvantage. |
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I agree, boxing out, incidental contact, etc is all going on both ways during the course of the game..... But the OP quoted above??? "Pushes and plows" sounds so close to intentional, that at a minimum, should be called, regardless of time/score. Now we are back to that Official you all despise, "Well, last nights official let it go..." or "Well, last nights official called it..." |
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Jurassic Referee, I understand all the principles, concepts which are being discussed. I just don't agree with them. If an official is officiating off ball like he/she is suppose to do. They will not know if an attempt is success or unsuccessful in order to penalize something that occurred in their PCA. That's my point.
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I was just attempting to bring out why the basket counts.
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We're not talking about taking your eyes out of your primary and following the flight of the ball, but you absolutely have to know the status of the ball, regardless of where you are at and what is going on in your primary. This includes whether or not it is going in. You may not be able to tell with 100% certainty that it will drop but you should have a good idea. If it goes in you need to know in the event your partner(s) need your help and if it doesn't you should be anticipating where the rebound is going to go in order to get a better look. I'll admit that it's a skill that takes time to develop, but I believe it's a very necessary one. To me it's like the difference between looking a couple of seconds ahead when you're driving and just seeing the break lights in front of you or looking a few more seconds ahead and seeing the wreck three cars in front of you and being able to stop in time.
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