"Letting Them Play..."

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

Dan.. I think we have different view on "taking over" Controlling a game within the confines of the rules is not taking over a game in my eyes. Its policing a game.

We guide and enforce the guidelines, but there are alot of... unwriten rules when it comes to this.

One person on this board said that if we called ever contact we saw on the court games would last days. That is taking over the game. When you call every thing you possibly can just cause you can. IMO.

I've never seen any good varsity officials do that. They always are patient and precise with the whistle.

The officiating presence -- ie rules, guidelines, The Game -- should take over the game and be in control. That's what makes it a Game. The person in the body needs to be an official though, and not an individual. There's a time for the officiating presence to crack down and take over, calling everything to get the game back where it belongs. There's never a time for an individual to assert his/her own 2x4 personality and call everything because "that's just who I am".

For the officiating presence to take over is good and right. for the 2x4 personality to be an ooo is not good, not right.

[tomegun]

This whole post became a blur after I read that someone thinks Violet Palmer is the worst official in the NBA. That just goes to show that some people don't even know what they are watching when they claim to be officials. I have never met her, but I don't recall anyone saying anything bad about her off the court and she is a playoff official on the court. I can immediately think of a few NBA officials who are obviously worse...if you know what to look for.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tomegun

This whole post became a blur after I read that someone thinks Violet Palmer is the worst official in the NBA. That just goes to show that some people don't even know what they are watching when they claim to be officials. I have never met her, but I don't recall anyone saying anything bad about her off the court and she is a playoff official on the court. I can immediately think of a few NBA officials who are obviously worse...if you know what to look for.

It is funny how we tend to see many of these things the same way. I was thinking the exact same thing. I stopped reading after I heard that quote.

Peace

[Bearfanmike20]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is funny how we tend to see many of these things the same way. I was thinking the exact same thing. I stopped reading after I heard that quote.

Peace

Why is it such a big deal that I dont think she is very good??

ok.. so maybe I went overboard with the worst official remark, but I just dont think she is very good compared to many of her conterparts. Its just my opinion. (which has been known to be wrong from time to time.)

I'm just starting out, so you may be right.. also I havn't seen one of her games in a while so I'll have to watch again and see if she improved since.

That being said.. I know of a few other official who agree with my opinion on violet palmer. One of them being a very seasoned official and has been reffing for almost 40 years.

I'm not the only one...

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

Why is it such a big deal that I dont think she is very good??

ok.. so maybe I went overboard with the worst official remark, but I just dont think she is very good compared to many of her conterparts. Its just my opinion. (which has been known to be wrong from time to time.)

I'm just starting out, so you may be right.. also I havn't seen one of her games in a while so I'll have to watch again and see if she improved since.

That being said.. I know of a few other official who agree with my opinion on violet palmer. One of them being a very seasoned official and has been reffing for almost 40 years.

I'm not the only one...

Well, 10,000 people who agree with you don't mean you're right... it also doesn't mean you're wrong, though...

Since it's just an opinion, you could probably word it like this...

"I don't like Violet Palmer. I wish they'd get rid of her. I don't think she is very good."

And don't be afraid to change your mind. Maybe after you've been reffing some more you'll see things differently. You just never know.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

Why is it such a big deal that I dont think she is very good??

ok.. so maybe I went overboard with the worst official remark, but I just dont think she is very good compared to many of her conterparts. Its just my opinion. (which has been known to be wrong from time to time.)

I'm just starting out, so you may be right.. also I havn't seen one of her games in a while so I'll have to watch again and see if she improved since.

That being said.. I know of a few other official who agree with my opinion on violet palmer. One of them being a very seasoned official and has been reffing for almost 40 years.

I'm not the only one...

Whether you like it or not, you have not been around or been in enough wars to know what a good official truly does or does not do at this point. You have a right to your opinion and the right to say it. But I think the fact this is your first year, talking about the ability of an NBA Official is probably not a good idea. I am sure there other others that might have an opinion about her that is similar, but there are not officials that are in that class you hear saying that. And I rarely hear a bad word about her from players and she almost never seems to be at the forefront which seems to be things people like in an official. I do not even think I am qualified to say she is the worst official in the NBA. All I am is a HS and semi-college official.

Peace

[Bearfanmike20]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Whether you like it or not, you have not been around or been in enough wars to know what a good official truly does or does not do at this point. You have a right to your opinion and the right to say it. But I think the fact this is your first year, talking about the ability of an NBA Official is probably not a good idea. I am sure there other others that might have an opinion about her that is similar, but there are not officials that are in that class you hear saying that. And I rarely hear a bad word about her from players and she almost never seems to be at the forefront which seems to be things people like in an official. I do not even think I am qualified to say she is the worst official in the NBA. All I am is a HS and semi-college official.

Peace

Point taken...