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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 10:06pm
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Did a lower game tonight as favor to assignor and talent level was pretty weak. As a result my partner and I got sloppy. After timeout ball is inbounded and B only has four players on the court( I told you were were sloppy). Play goes on for a 5-10 seconds and the fifth player runs out onto the court.

I called a T on team B. Right or wrong?

Just the ruling please............other circumstances were in play on this one
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 10:16pm
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Did a lower game tonight as favor to assignor and talent level was pretty weak. As a result my partner and I got sloppy. After timeout ball is inbounded and B only has four players on the court( I told you were were sloppy). Play goes on for a 5-10 seconds and the fifth player runs out onto the court.

I called a T on team B. Right or wrong?

Just the ruling please............other circumstances were in play on this one
Right. Coaches are ultimately responsible for substitutions.
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 10:17pm
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Right. Coaches are ultimately responsible for substitutions.

Can you cite the ruling? I have a few cold ones on this one.
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 10:19pm
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Did a lower game tonight as favor to assignor and talent level was pretty weak. As a result my partner and I got sloppy. After timeout ball is inbounded and B only has four players on the court( I told you were were sloppy). Play goes on for a 5-10 seconds and the fifth player runs out onto the court.

I called a T on team B. Right or wrong?

Just the ruling please............other circumstances were in play on this one
Right. See Interp #12
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 01:12am
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Right. See Interp #12
As bob let you know this ruling is in this year's NFHS interpretations which are currently posted on the website. So it should be fairly easy for you to win your bet.

http://www.nfhs.org/web/2007/10/2007...s_interpr.aspx
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 08:19am
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Can you cite the ruling? I have a few cold ones on this one.
10-1-9; 10-3-3
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 08:52am
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In a lower level game, if I was getting sloppy and didn't pay attention, I wouldn't be calling a T in this sitch. Actually, even if I wasn't getting sloppy, I wouldn't call the T. Unless you could detrmine it was an intentional act designed by the coach to give them an advantage.
It isn't the state championship game, let it go.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 09:11am
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In a lower level game, if I was getting sloppy and didn't pay attention, I wouldn't be calling a T in this sitch. Actually, even if I wasn't getting sloppy, I wouldn't call the T. Unless you could detrmine it was an intentional act designed by the coach to give them an advantage.
It isn't the state championship game, let it go.
As I mentioned other circumstances were in play. It was the right call at the right time.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 09:15am
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T is OK though I might let them play on.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 09:18am
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T is OK though I might let them play on.
As I mentioned other circumstances were in play. It was the right call at the right time.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 10:28am
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In a lower level game, if I was getting sloppy and didn't pay attention, I wouldn't be calling a T in this sitch. Actually, even if I wasn't getting sloppy, I wouldn't call the T. Unless you could detrmine it was an intentional act designed by the coach to give them an advantage.
It isn't the state championship game, let it go.
I hate this philosophy. What happens when a team gets to the state championship? Do they then play by a whole different set of rules? Will they be prepared to play by those rules?

The rules are the rules. Just enforce them and move on.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 10:39am
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As I mentioned other circumstances were in play.
Sheez, fullor you keep saying that, and now I'm curious, what other circumstances. Enquiring minds what to know!!
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 10:31pm
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As I mentioned other circumstances were in play. It was the right call at the right time.
If "it was the right call at the right time", then why are you on here asking "right or wrong".
You don't want our opinion, look the ruling up yourself.

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I hate this philosophy. What happens when a team gets to the state championship? Do they then play by a whole different set of rules? Will they be prepared to play by those rules?

The rules are the rules. Just enforce them and move on.
Not hardly. He said this was a lower level game. How low? That is a key point. I hear some people on here talk about calling a 5th grade game as strict as a D1 tournament. You can't just enforce the rules the same way in that level of game.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 10:57pm
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If "it was the right call at the right time", then why are you on here asking "right or wrong".
You don't want our opinion, look the ruling up yourself.
He meant that whatever call he made was right for the game, even IF it wasn't right by the rules. He wants (or wanted) to know whether it was ALSO right by the rules.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 11:17pm
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He meant that whatever call he made was right for the game, even IF it wasn't right by the rules.
What!!! God forbid he should do that in a state championship!
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