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Old Tue Dec 04, 2007, 03:36pm
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Coaches have been the same. I guess I am the weird one who rarely sees improper behavior, but as an experienced official it is relatively easy to counsel the lower-level coaches on seeing things from your point of view, and how they can ask questions/make points without alienating the officials. Your example is humorous; some coaches might not find the humor in it.
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2007, 03:51pm
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Coaches have been the same. I guess I am the weird one who rarely sees improper behavior, but as an experienced official it is relatively easy to counsel the lower-level coaches on seeing things from your point of view, and how they can ask questions/make points without alienating the officials. Your example is humorous; some coaches might not find the humor in it.
I call Bull****! Utter, complete, and unrelenting bull****. I don't know where you dream this crap up, but a television show based on your officiating experience would very clearly not be listed under "Reality TV."

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Old Tue Dec 04, 2007, 03:59pm
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I probably see as many MS coaches as anyone here, and I can tell you I think there has been a deterioration of professionalism and behavior over the past few years. Of course, this is a broad (Juulie - I don't mean it that way) generalization. There are still many who act professionally and don't cause problems, but not as many percentage-wise as in the past, in my opinion.

The only reason I can come up with for this is perhaps there is a higher level of success expected by upper level coaches for whom these MS programs act as feeders, and by parents, than in the past. As I'm sure we all agree, parents equate yelling and screaming coaches with effective coaches. Plus, they may also be trying to deflect blame for lack of success so the perception by "higher-ups" is that they aren't as bad as they really are, when being considered for promotion.

Or, maybe our society is just producing more jerks who want to coach. Yeah, that's it.
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2007, 04:06pm
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People skills, people skills, people skills. Some use the carrot, some use the stick. Both work.
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2007, 04:10pm
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People skills, people skills, people skills. Some use the carrot, some use the stick. Both work.
Yep. And we all know what makes carrots grow nice and big.
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2007, 04:11pm
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Dang! I think I just broke my solemn vow to never reply to Old Stool.
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2007, 04:19pm
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Dang! I think I just broke my solemn vow to never reply to Old Stool.
Just qualify your vow with "knowingly." You're covered.
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2007, 09:01pm
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Yep. And we all know what makes carrots grow nice and big.
It's worth breaking your vow for. Funny!!
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2007, 12:58am
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I also had an issue tonight with a first year mid school coach. He questioned my calls all night. Kept trying to creep out onto the court to question calls. When my partner called a backcourt violation, he ran onto the court screaming and jumping around. He made it all the way to half court. My partner was moving into position so he didn't see him. Needless to say I T'ed him up and told him to sit down, to which he replied, "You've got to be f'in kidding me." Simple enough...second technical and he was waiting in the bus.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2007, 01:27am
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I also had an issue tonight with a first year mid school coach. He questioned my calls all night. Kept trying to creep out onto the court to question calls. When my partner called a backcourt violation, he ran onto the court screaming and jumping around. He made it all the way to half court. My partner was moving into position so he didn't see him. Needless to say I T'ed him up and told him to sit down, to which he replied, "You've got to be f'in kidding me." Simple enough...second technical and he was waiting in the bus.
Middle school?!?! Oh, dear, that's awful. I hope there are at least a couple of parents who refuse to put up with that kind of stuff.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2007, 05:56am
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I also had an issue tonight with a first year mid school coach. He questioned my calls all night. Kept trying to creep out onto the court to question calls. When my partner called a backcourt violation, he ran onto the court screaming and jumping around. He made it all the way to half court. My partner was moving into position so he didn't see him. Needless to say I T'ed him up and told him to sit down, to which he replied, "You've got to be f'in kidding me." Simple enough...second technical and he was waiting in the bus.
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