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Old Sat Dec 01, 2007, 04:10am
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Originally Posted by TRef21
3:30 left in the 2nd quarter team A calls timeout. After the expiration of the timeout Team A inbounds the ball at there baseline. Team B coach is telling the official that there are only 4 players on the floor while the ball is already in play.
Team A puts up the shot sinks it. The trail official whose back is turned to the the team A bench sees a player just run on the court and goes right by him. The official blows the whistle and assess an indirect technical foul, for the illegal substitution. Team B coach starts saying he was already a starter and he can legally enter the game if four guys are on the playing court while the ball is live
(shows how much the coach knows the rules). He said that the official never saw the player run on from the bench. So the official goes to the able and the scorer, and both books say he ran on. The Crew chief comes over and tells the official, since you didn't have definite knowledge we can't assess it. The official had checked with the table personal, an extension of the officiating crew as well. The crew chief still doesn't penalize the illegal substitution. What is the correct ruling? Indirect Technical foul for the illegal substution or leave it alone since neither official say it with their own eyes.
you make the call..........
Actually the coach isn't that far off here. If this had been a substitution situation instead of a time-out, then he would have been right!

Are you sure that you know the details of this one?
Your post contains some serious inaccuracies.
This is NOT an indirect to anyone and it's NOT an illegal substitution.

2007-08 Basketball Rules Interpretations
SITUATION 12: Following a (a) charged time-out; or (b) a lengthy substitution process involving multiple substitutions for both teams, A5 goes to the bench and remains there mistakenly believing he/she has been replaced by a substitute. The ball is put in play even though Team A has only four players on the court. Team A is bringing the ball into A's frontcourt when the coach of Team A realizes they have only four players. The coach yells for A5 to return, and he/she sprints onto the court and catches up with play. RULING: In (a), the officials shall stop play and assess a team technical foul for not having all players return to the court at approximately the same time after a time-out. The technical foul counts toward the team-foul count. In (b), the officials may permit play to continue without penalty. A5's return to the court was not deceitful, nor did it provide A5 an unfair positioning advantage on the court. COMMENT: Even though neither situation provided A5 or Team A with an advantage, teams are expected to return to the court at approximately the same time following a time-out. The officials should have also followed the prescribed mechanics and counted the number of players on the court, ensuring each team has the legal number of players. (10-1-9; 10-3-3)


It doesn't really matter that the official didn't see the 5th player run on late, it is only important to know that he didn't return at the same time as his teammates. That's a TEAM technical foul.
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