Reach in foul on player

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by MadCityRef

If a player "reaches in" but makes no contact, it's not a foul.
Go with "hit" signal if there is - but that ball better be loose or there's blood on the floor!!

What is a "hit" signal?

Could you explain the "loose ball/blood on the floor comment? Are you saying that you shouldn't call a foul if a defensive player reaches in with an arm, makes illegal contact and slows down/knocks off balance/re-directs an opponent?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

What is a "hit" signal?

He obviously means NFHS signal #29.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

He obviously means NFHS signal #29.

Illegal use of hands.

[Bearfanmike20]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Illegal use of hands.

At my clinic... I was told when using this signal to open the top hand like a chop because with the two fists closed it looks too much like an intentional foul signal and there is confusion.

Do any of you do that??

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

At my clinic... I was told when using this signal to open the top hand like a chop because with the two fists closed it looks too much like an intentional foul signal and there is confusion.

Do any of you do that??

I prefer the look of the fists. I just keep the lower arm out straight enough and low enough, and then bring the upper arm down sideways enough that there can be no confusion. If you put your intentional foul above your head, and the other at chest height and off to one side, there shouldn;t be a problem.

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

At my clinic... I was told when using this signal to open the top hand like a chop because with the two fists closed it looks too much like an intentional foul signal and there is confusion.

Do any of you do that??

No, I haven't seen it done that way, but I was told by a clinician to make the signal off to the side of my body instead of directly in front of me so it won't look like the intentional foul signal.

[Coltdoggs]

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

At my clinic... I was told when using this signal to open the top hand like a chop because with the two fists closed it looks too much like an intentional foul signal and there is confusion.

Do any of you do that??

I tend to use fists, (old habits die hard) kind of like a personal foul signal in football.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

At my clinic... I was told when using this signal to open the top hand like a chop because with the two fists closed it looks too much like an intentional foul signal and there is confusion.

Do any of you do that??

That is something I had heard before at clinics also, but the last clinic I attended, the clinician confirmed that you should ue the fist because that is the prescribed mechanic....if you keep it down at/below the waist there should be no reason to have it confused for the intentional foul....just don't let your hands fly all over the place and you'll be fine!

[Back In The Saddle]

Iirc, the Fed changed this signal to use the fists just within the last few years. Rationale being that it's a "stronger" looking signal. As long as it's out where it should be, I don't see how it could be confused for the intentional signal (which doesn't mean that it can't happen).