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Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 08:07pm
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Reach in foul on player

NFHS - What is the proper mechanics (signal)for reportng this type of foul?
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Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 08:16pm
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You will not find a signal, because there is no such thing.

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Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 08:31pm
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If a player "reaches in" but makes no contact, it's not a foul.
Go with "hit" signal if there is - but that ball better be loose or there's blood on the floor!!
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Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 08:34pm
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Originally Posted by MadCityRef
If a player "reaches in" but makes no contact, it's not a foul.
Go with "hit" signal if there is - but that ball better be loose or there's blood on the floor!!
Or displacement. Or illegal advantage.
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Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 09:14pm
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Or illegal advantage.
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Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 09:37pm
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illegal advantage for the fouling player's team.

illegal disadvantage for the dribbler.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 06:26am
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Originally Posted by MadCityRef
If a player "reaches in" but makes no contact, it's not a foul.
Go with "hit" signal if there is - but that ball better be loose or there's blood on the floor!!
What is a "hit" signal?

Could you explain the "loose ball/blood on the floor comment? Are you saying that you shouldn't call a foul if a defensive player reaches in with an arm, makes illegal contact and slows down/knocks off balance/re-directs an opponent?
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 06:36am
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What is a "hit" signal?
He obviously means NFHS signal #29.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 08:29am
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If a player "reaches in" but makes no contact, it's not a foul.
My old interpreter used to say he would get so mad when he heard a coach yell, "That's a reach!". He'd say (to us, not to the coach), "Of course he's reaching!! How's he supposed to steal the ball without reaching for it?!?!?!"
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 08:30am
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He obviously means NFHS signal #29.
Illegal use of hands.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 09:34am
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Illegal use of hands.
At my clinic... I was told when using this signal to open the top hand like a chop because with the two fists closed it looks too much like an intentional foul signal and there is confusion.

Do any of you do that??
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 09:38am
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At my clinic... I was told when using this signal to open the top hand like a chop because with the two fists closed it looks too much like an intentional foul signal and there is confusion.

Do any of you do that??
I prefer the look of the fists. I just keep the lower arm out straight enough and low enough, and then bring the upper arm down sideways enough that there can be no confusion. If you put your intentional foul above your head, and the other at chest height and off to one side, there shouldn;t be a problem.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 10:38am
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At my clinic... I was told when using this signal to open the top hand like a chop because with the two fists closed it looks too much like an intentional foul signal and there is confusion.

Do any of you do that??
No, I haven't seen it done that way, but I was told by a clinician to make the signal off to the side of my body instead of directly in front of me so it won't look like the intentional foul signal.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 11:18am
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NFHS - What is the proper mechanics (signal)for reportng this type of foul?
The question is, what did the player do wrong?

Normally when there actually is a foul on this play, it's either a block, illegal use of the hands, or a push.

Most of the time, there is no actual foul, however. Never say "reaching in" when reporting the foul, and never say "over the back" when reporting the foul.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 11:28am
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I believe the reaching in mechanic is right next to the over the back mechanic in the rulesbook.
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