The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 03:40pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 124
In theory I would be very hesitant to work a game with my boss's kids. Not because I couldn't do it fairly, but I would be concerned with repercussions in the workplace.
__________________
Are there rocks ahead? If there are, we all be dead!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 03:49pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,193
It's not only whether *you* can work impartially, it's whether others might have a reason to question it.

So, items C-F in the original list are likely to create a conflict. In B, it depends on how long ago you graduated. In A, it depends on the definition of "friend."

In all of them, it depends on the level of the game.

One you didn't ask:

Suppose you were a female D-1 official on the west coast, and your "partner" was a female assistant at a D-1 school. Would it be a conflict to officiate that team's games? (Purely hypothetical, I'm sure)
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 12:32pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 265
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins
It's not only whether *you* can work impartially, it's whether others might have a reason to question it.
Bob is on the mark. The perception of impartiality is the real question. A genuinely professional official will always be impartial. I just started teaching at a high school in a new state...I could give a rat's patoot whether or not they win their games. But because I teach at the school I won't be assigned any of their games and that makes perfect sense to me. Fortunately I'm in a huge urban area and there are plenty of games.

And as JRut said, "If people want to find a conflict, they will." When I officiated in Hawaii and a close call would go against a visiting mainland team, it wasn't unusual to get a local favoritism/home cooking comment from the visitors. In my southern drawl, my response was always, "Hey, I'm from Tennessee," and it stopped those comments every time.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 01:04pm
In Memoriam
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Hell
Posts: 20,211
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corndog89

And as JRut said, "If people want to find a conflict, they will." When I officiated in Hawaii and a close call would go against a visiting mainland team, it wasn't unusual to get a local favoritism/home cooking comment from the visitors. In my southern drawl, my response was always, "Hey, I'm from Tennessee," and it stopped those comments every time.
Yup, instead they now said "Oh, that's why you screwed up."
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Thu Nov 29, 2007, 10:01pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 265
Originally Posted by Corndog89

And as JRut said, "If people want to find a conflict, they will." When I officiated in Hawaii and a close call would go against a visiting mainland team, it wasn't unusual to get a local favoritism/home cooking comment from the visitors. In my southern drawl, my response was always, "Hey, I'm from Tennessee," and it stopped those comments every time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Yup, instead they now said "Oh, that's why you screwed up."
Most visiting teams were from the west coast so I'm not even sure they understood me...certainly most of the Hawaiian kids didn't.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 04:12pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by inigo montoya
In theory I would be very hesitant to work a game with my boss's kids. Not because I couldn't do it fairly, but I would be concerned with repercussions in the workplace.
I did this last year. No worries. First, it was a ms game. 2nd, he thought it was when he showed up. I had another co-worker's daughter's game twice last year (again, ms).

My current boss doesn't have kids in school, though, so it's no longer a worry for me.

I'm with Rut, though, on the rest of them; even though the state of CO apparently disagrees with me. My first varsity game back in Iowa was for my old high school, 12 years after I graduated in a gym that didn't exist when I played, with coaches I didn't know and players whose names meant nothing to me.

That said, CHSAA has "insinuated" that they would rather officials not officiate games for schools they attended in the past. conflicts of interest are to be reported for consideration in the post season assignments as well; such as my wife teaches there, or my sister coaches there, etc.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Conflict of Interest... NURef Basketball 25 Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:28am
Conflict of Interest? tarheelcoach Basketball 2 Sat Jan 28, 2006 07:34pm
Conflict of Interest? TheRefinator Basketball 15 Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:24am
Conflict Of Interest........ zebra44 Basketball 14 Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:43am
conflict of interest angelseven Basketball 19 Fri Jan 10, 2003 11:31am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:21am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1