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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 05:49pm
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Backcourt Violation?

Game Situation: A1 Is Dribbling In Backcourt Near Midcourt Line, A1 (still Dribbling) Steps Over To Frontcourt, One Foot Frontcourt, One Foot Backcourt, Dribble In Frontcourt,..a1 Then Moves Foot In Frontcourt And Ball Back To Backcourt. Is This A Backcourt Violation? I Approached One Of Our Top Level Officials In Our Local/state Association And Was Told This Was Not A Backcourt Violation Due To A1 Had Not Fully Established Frontcourt.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 05:53pm
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When a player is dribbling from backcourt to frontcourt, the ball does not gain frontcourt status until the ball and both feet each establish complete frontcourt position. IOW, all three "points" must get to the FC.

This only applies to a dribbling player. If this dribbler were to pick up his dribble straddling the line, then lift his backcourt foot, he then gains FC status since the three-point rule no longer applies.

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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 06:40pm
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The official you approached gave you the correct answer.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 07:11pm
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I Approached One Of Our Top Level Officials In Our Local/state Association And Was Told This Was Not A Backcourt Violation Due To A1 Had Not Fully Established Frontcourt.

I take it you didn't believe him??
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 10:54pm
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Just to confuse issues, this is a backcourt violation in FIBA rules.
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Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 08:28am
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Game Situation: A1 Is Dribbling In Backcourt Near Midcourt Line, A1 (still Dribbling) Steps Over To Frontcourt, One Foot Frontcourt, One Foot Backcourt, Dribble In Frontcourt,..a1 Then Moves Foot In Frontcourt And Ball Back To Backcourt. Is This A Backcourt Violation? I Approached One Of Our Top Level Officials In Our Local/state Association And Was Told This Was Not A Backcourt Violation Due To A1 Had Not Fully Established Frontcourt.
Your post is also a violation of capitalization rules.
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Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 09:02am
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Your post is also a violation of capitalization rules.
True, but my guess is that he sent it from some hand-held device that defaults (for some reason) to Initial Caps.
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Game Situation: A1 Is Dribbling In Backcourt Near Midcourt Line, A1 (still Dribbling) Steps Over To Frontcourt, One Foot Frontcourt, One Foot Backcourt, Dribble In Frontcourt,..a1 Then Moves Foot In Frontcourt And Ball Back To Backcourt. Is This A Backcourt Violation? I Approached One Of Our Top Level Officials In Our Local/state Association And Was Told This Was Not A Backcourt Violation Due To A1 Had Not Fully Established Frontcourt.
The details of what happened need to be more precise to get a correct answer. If the events happened the way you described them, then BC violation may have occurred. Concerning the OP, the dribbled ball needs to bounce in the backcourt before the backcourt foot is moved to the frontcourt. It sounds like a close play, and I would not be disagreeable whichever way you called it.
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Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 09:40am
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The details of what happened need to be more precise to get a correct answer. If the events happened the way you described them, then BC violation may have occurred. Concerning the OP, the dribbled ball needs to bounce in the backcourt before the backcourt foot is moved to the frontcourt. It sounds like a close play, and I would not be disagreeable whichever way you called it.
Sam, I read the OP as saying that one foot was in the frontcourt, while the other was never in the frontcourt...I don't see where both feet were ever in the frontcourt.
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Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 09:43am
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The details of what happened need to be more precise to get a correct answer. If the events happened the way you described them, then BC violation may have occurred. Concerning the OP, the dribbled ball needs to bounce in the backcourt before the backcourt foot is moved to the frontcourt. It sounds like a close play, and I would not be disagreeable whichever way you called it.
I don't see any way to read the OP (without reading *into* the OP) to have all "Three points" reach the frontcourt.
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Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 01:29pm
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Thanks!!

Thank you all for your feedback. My apologies for violating the "CAPS" rule.
The official I initially asked about this game situation, responded with the same answer as "Snaqwells".
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Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 03:14pm
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Game Situation: A1 Is Dribbling In Backcourt Near Midcourt Line, A1 (still Dribbling) Steps Over To Frontcourt, One Foot Frontcourt, One Foot Backcourt, Dribble In Frontcourt,..a1 Then Moves Foot In Frontcourt And Ball Back To Backcourt. Is This A Backcourt Violation? I Approached One Of Our Top Level Officials In Our Local/state Association And Was Told This Was Not A Backcourt Violation Due To A1 Had Not Fully Established Frontcourt.
I have re-read the OP and am back in sync with the same meaning that the others had. My error was in thinking that "a1 Then Moves Foot In Frontcourt" meant that the backcourt foot was moved to the front court...
regardless, I am now reading the post as the others have.
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