Uniform problem in Tennessee

[Snake~eyes]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I need to pull the book out, but is there a restriction on when this should be enforced? If no one notices until midway through the 1st quarter, does it get ignored at that point?

Once you notice the violation, it becomes a technical foul.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Snake~eyes

Once you notice the violation, it becomes a technical foul.

Just to be snippy, it's never a violation. You could call it an infraction.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Just to be snippy, it's never a violation. You could call it an infraction.

Juulie:

Way to go. Now are you starting to talk like me.

MTD, Sr.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Juulie:

Way to go. Now are you starting to talk like me.

MTD, Sr.

Juulie - If this is the case, I can give you the name of a good psychiatrist. In fact, I can give you about a dozen.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Juulie:

Way to go. Now are you starting to talk like me.

MTD, Sr.

YIKES!! Padgett-- Call me!

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

YIKES!! Padgett-- Call me!

Just call 1-800-nutjobs and ask for Dr. Niles Curvy. If he's not available, ask for Dr. Vinny Boombatz.

OK - trivia quiz - who knows what comedians used to claim these were their doctors?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Just call 1-800-nutjobs and ask for Dr. Niles Curvy. If he's not available, ask for Dr. Vinny Boombatz.

OK - trivia quiz - who knows what comedians used to claim these were their doctors?

OK -- Not-So-Trivial Quiz: Who cares?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

Unfortunately, the officials still misapplied the rule since the T needs to be enforced the first time the player with the illegal uniform enters the floor. If the T is not enforced at that time, it cannot be retroactively enforced.

Seems that some of those here need to read the following:

3.6 SITUATION A: A1 is discovered participating with a visible manufacturer's logo on the shirt. RULING: The shirt is illegal, but the technical-foul penalty cannot be invoked unless A1 is replaced and then re-enters. (10-3-2 Penalty)

3.6 SITUATION C: Prior to the jump ball to start the game, the officials observe that the five Team B starters are all wearing pants which have a manufacturer's logo or school's mascot (a) which meets the proper dimension limitations; or (b) exceeds the limitation of 2¼ square inches by 2¼ square inches in any one dimension. RULING: Legal uniforms in (a). In (b), each of the Team B starters is charged with a technical foul. The starters may play and will not be penalized again if they leave and re-enter. Entering substitutes who become players will also be penalized individually if they are wearing illegal pants.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Just call 1-800-nutjobs and ask for Dr. Niles Curvy. If he's not available, ask for Dr. Vinny Boombatz.

OK - trivia quiz - who knows what comedians used to claim these were their doctors?

Dr. Boombatz is a great doctor. I really like him.

MTD, Sr.

[Mark Padgett]

Everybody give up? Johnny Carson goes to Dr. Curvey and Rodney Dangerfield goes to Dr. Boombatz.

I guess MTD Sr. does too!

[Ignats75]

Unfortunately, the officials still misapplied the rule since the T needs to be enforced the first time the player with the illegal uniform enters the floor. If the T is not enforced at that time, it cannot be retroactively enforced.

[Scooby]

Yes it can and must be enforced if it is caught later on in the game.

[Ignats75]

Originally Posted by Scooby

Yes it can and must be enforced if it is caught later on in the game.

Wrong....first of all, that was specifically mentioned in our state rules meeting by the official OHSAA rules interpreter.

Secondly:

10-3-2...wear an illegal jersey, illegal pants/skirt or illegal number.
PENALTY: (Art. 2) Each violation is penalized one time if discovered prior to ball becoming live for each esignated starter and each substitule who enters.

(italics are mine)

Clearly the uniform violation must be Teed at the start of the game for the starters and on initial entry into the game for each sub. Otherwise, no T. The rules state this and our rules interpreter clarified the same thing at our state rules meeting.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

Wrong....first of all, that was specifically mentioned in our state rules meeting by the official OHSAA rules interpreter.

Secondly:

10-3-2...wear an illegal jersey, illegal pants/skirt or illegal number.
PENALTY: (Art. 2) Each violation is penalized one time if discovered prior to ball becoming live for each esignated starter and each substitule who enters.

(italics are mine)

Clearly the uniform violation must be Teed at the start of the game for the starters and on initial entry into the game for each sub. Otherwise, no T. The rules state this and our rules interpreter clarified the same thing at our state rules meeting.

That might be true in Ohio (or whatever "O" state you are in), but it's not the correct FED interp.

If it's missed the first time, it can be asssessed teh next time the player re-enters the game. Nevada laready posted the relevant case play.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

Wrong....first of all, that was specifically mentioned in our state rules meeting by the official OHSAA rules interpreter.
...
Clearly the uniform violation must be Teed at the start of the game for the starters and on initial entry into the game for each sub. Otherwise, no T. The rules state this and our rules interpreter clarified the same thing at our state rules meeting.

Ignats,
Unfortunately, you were given poor information from your rules interpreter. I've proven that by posting the Case Book ruling. We'll have to get MTD to contact this guy and straighten him out.