Speaking of cheaters....

[BondsIsaCheater]

How 'bout the refs on this forum actually asking for the answers to this year's Part II closed book exam?????
Folks.....open the book and study.
Your thoughts.....?

[M&M Guy]

I e-mailed Victor Conte for the answers. I'll post what he sends back.

[Jurassic Referee]

It happens every year. It happens with the NFHS Part 1 exam too. Anyone asking here usually finds out that they've come to the wrong place. It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be here when they were openly trading exams and answers.

There's nothing the matter with discussing individual exam questions. The difference is learning vs. cheating.

Jmo.

[Mark Padgett]

I took some steroids and then asked for the answers.

[JRutledge]

If a married man used Viagra would that qualify as cheating on his wife?

Peace

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If a married man used Viagra would that qualify as cheating on his wife?

Peace

If's he doing it to remain competitive with all the other guys doing her, yeah.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If a married man used Viagra would that qualify as cheating on his wife?

Peace

Depends.

How was the Viagra obtained? Was it a legal prescription?

If he obtained it through the wrong channels, did he lie about it to authorities?

Did his wife ask that he not use it, and he used it anyway?

So many questions to answer...

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If a married man used Viagra would that qualify as cheating on his wife?

Peace

She might think she was being cheated if he stopped using it.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If a married man used Viagra would that qualify as cheating on his wife? Peace

What do you get when you mix Viagra with Rogaine?

You get hair like Don King.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

It happens every year. It happens with the NFHS Part 1 exam too. Anyone asking here usually finds out that they've come to the wrong place. It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be here when they were openly trading exams and answers.

There's nothing the matter with discussing individual exam questions. The difference is learning vs. cheating.

Jmo.

Not all states use the test the same way. So accusing people of cheating is or isn't over the top depending on what state the person is in. Jmo.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Not all states use the test the same way. So accusing people of cheating is or isn't over the top depending on what state the person is in. Jmo.

Why would anybody ask for the exam and answers then? If they're going to use the exam for study purposes, then what possible good are the answers? They'll find the answers while they're studying. If they can't find a particular answer, then they can come here and ask. And if they're going to write the same exam and their test mark doesn't mean anything, then why would they need to have that exam early?

The people that come here asking for the exam and/or answers are 99.99% cheating azzholes. That's jmo.

Your faith in humanity is much greater than mine, Rich. That's nice.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Why would anybody ask for the exam and answers then? If they're going to use the exam for study purposes, then what possible good are the answers? They'll find the answers while they're studying. If they can't find a particular answer, then they can come here and ask. And if they're going to write the same exam and their test mark doesn't mean anything, then why would they need to have that exam early?

If you get an answer key, you can have the references for the questions. The answers should not be a secret if you are trying to understand the rules.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The people that come here asking for the exam and/or answers are 99.99% cheating azzholes. That's jmo.

Your faith in humanity is much greater than mine, Rich. That's nice.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

There are a lot of states or jurisdictions that do not use the NF tests. So to suggest everyone that is asking is cheating is not right. I will never take the Part 2 Test again. If I ask for the test, it is not going to help me cheat at anything. That is not an opinion that is a fact.

Peace

[Larks]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The people that come here asking for the exam and/or answers are 99.99% cheating azzholes. That's jmo.

DOH

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by BondsIsaCheater

How 'bout the refs on this forum actually asking for the answers to this year's Part II closed book exam?????
Folks.....open the book and study.
Your thoughts.....?

Let see. On Monday everyone takes the Part II exam. On Tuesday AFTER the test was taken someone asks you what was your answer on #10 True or False. Pray tell how can one "cheat" after the test was handed in. As Ricky said to Lucy "splain it please"

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

Let see. On Monday everyone takes the Part II exam. On Tuesday AFTER the test was taken someone asks you what was your answer on #10 True or False. Pray tell how can one "cheat" after the test was handed in. As Ricky said to Lucy "splain it please"

Well, Ricky...

Asking about an answer to a specific question isn't cheating. Asking about specific answers after a test is taken isn't cheating. But not everyone here takes the test at the same time. So asking for and/or posting all the answers, before taking the test, seems like cheating. And that's what some people on this forum do. For many, the Part 1 exam is meant to be taken as an open-book exam, which the intent is to make an offical actually read through the rule and case book to find the answers. For some, the Part 2 exam is closed book. Giving out most or all of the answers ahead of time is circumventing the intent of the tests.