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BondsIsaCheater Fri Nov 16, 2007 03:22pm

Speaking of cheaters....
 
How 'bout the refs on this forum actually asking for the answers to this year's Part II closed book exam?????
Folks.....open the book and study.
Your thoughts.....?

M&M Guy Fri Nov 16, 2007 03:31pm

I e-mailed Victor Conte for the answers. I'll post what he sends back.

Jurassic Referee Fri Nov 16, 2007 03:41pm

It happens every year. It happens with the NFHS Part 1 exam too. Anyone asking here usually finds out that they've come to the wrong place. It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be here when they were openly trading exams and answers.

There's nothing the matter with discussing individual exam questions. The difference is learning vs. cheating.

Jmo.

Mark Padgett Fri Nov 16, 2007 03:47pm

I took some steroids and then asked for the answers. :p

JRutledge Fri Nov 16, 2007 04:27pm

If a married man used Viagra would that qualify as cheating on his wife?

Peace

BLydic Fri Nov 16, 2007 04:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
If a married man used Viagra would that qualify as cheating on his wife?

Peace

If's he doing it to remain competitive with all the other guys doing her, yeah.

M&M Guy Fri Nov 16, 2007 04:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
If a married man used Viagra would that qualify as cheating on his wife?

Peace

Depends.

How was the Viagra obtained? Was it a legal prescription?

If he obtained it through the wrong channels, did he lie about it to authorities?

Did his wife ask that he not use it, and he used it anyway?

So many questions to answer...

JRutledge Fri Nov 16, 2007 05:08pm

Please no more jokes.......
 
What if she turned a blind eye to what was going on? Would that change your mind about who is responsible? :p

Peace

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Nov 16, 2007 05:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLydic
If's he doing it to remain competitive with all the other guys doing her, yeah.

BLydic:

You are really an incarnation of Rodney Dangerfield, aren't you.

MTD, Sr.

Rich Fri Nov 16, 2007 05:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
It happens every year. It happens with the NFHS Part 1 exam too. Anyone asking here usually finds out that they've come to the wrong place. It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be here when they were openly trading exams and answers.

There's nothing the matter with discussing individual exam questions. The difference is learning vs. cheating.

Jmo.

Not all states use the test the same way. So accusing people of cheating is or isn't over the top depending on what state the person is in. Jmo.

Mark Padgett Fri Nov 16, 2007 06:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Depends.

How was the Viagra obtained? Was it a legal prescription?

If he obtained it through the wrong channels, did he lie about it to authorities?

Did his wife ask that he not use it, and he used it anyway?

So many questions to answer...

Yeah - like did he cheat on his urine test? :eek:

Jurassic Referee Fri Nov 16, 2007 07:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN
Not all states use the test the same way. So accusing people of cheating is or isn't over the top depending on what state the person is in. Jmo.

Why would anybody ask for the exam and answers then? If they're going to use the exam for study purposes, then what possible good are the answers? They'll find the answers while they're studying. If they can't find a particular answer, then they can come here and ask. And if they're going to write the same exam and their test mark doesn't mean anything, then why would they need to have that exam early?

The people that come here asking for the exam and/or answers are 99.99% cheating azzholes. That's jmo.

Your faith in humanity is much greater than mine, Rich. That's nice.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.:)

Jurassic Referee Fri Nov 16, 2007 07:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Yeah - like did he cheat on his urine test? :eek:

Back to the discussion on the Original Whizzinator(tm).......

Mark Padgett Fri Nov 16, 2007 08:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Back to the discussion on the Original Whizzinator(tm).......

You don't need that to pass a urine test. It's multiple choice and all the answers are "P". ;)

JRutledge Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Why would anybody ask for the exam and answers then? If they're going to use the exam for study purposes, then what possible good are the answers? They'll find the answers while they're studying. If they can't find a particular answer, then they can come here and ask. And if they're going to write the same exam and their test mark doesn't mean anything, then why would they need to have that exam early?

If you get an answer key, you can have the references for the questions. The answers should not be a secret if you are trying to understand the rules.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
The people that come here asking for the exam and/or answers are 99.99% cheating azzholes. That's jmo.

Your faith in humanity is much greater than mine, Rich. That's nice.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.:)

There are a lot of states or jurisdictions that do not use the NF tests. So to suggest everyone that is asking is cheating is not right. I will never take the Part 2 Test again. If I ask for the test, it is not going to help me cheat at anything. That is not an opinion that is a fact. ;)

Peace


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