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Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 07:07pm
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When I see an official wearing a rubber band, I mentally place them in the same category as officials who wear a watch. That's just me though.

You do know that rubber bands are illegal for players to wear, don't you?
So? What does that have to do with officials? We wear other equipment that would be illegal for players to wear....a lanyard. Unless you can show me something in the book that says that it's illegal for officials to wear rubber bands, you have no grounds to suggest as much. Now, I agree that they shouldn't (becasue it looks bad and for other reasons), but it's not forbidden.
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 08:32pm
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So? What does that have to do with officials? We wear other equipment that would be illegal for players to wear....a lanyard. Unless you can show me something in the book that says that it's illegal for officials to wear rubber bands, you have no grounds to suggest as much. Now, I agree that they shouldn't (becasue it looks bad and for other reasons), but it's not forbidden.
The wearing of rubber bands by players was banned by the NFHS for safety reasons. If that's not a concern of you or your association, so be it. Hey, if you or any of your fellow officials out there want to wear rubber bands, be my guest. Knock yourself out. You're completely right. There's nothing that definitively states that officials can't wear them. My own opinion is that not only does it look bad for an official to wear something that a player isn't allowed to wear for safety reasons, it also looks as unprofessional as hell. And my association shares my opinion. They've banned officials from wearing them.

Different strokes for different folks though. Shrug.
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 01:32pm
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The wearing of rubber bands by players was banned by the NFHS for safety reasons.
They're no less safe than a wristband...and are perhaps more safe since they're likely snap before someone gets hurt where the wristband will not snap. The only difference is that rubber bands have no functional purpose and are considered decorative. You'd also have to define what a rubber band is vs. other items (rubber braclets...LiveStrong, etc.).
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If that's not a concern of you or your association, so be it. Hey, if you or any of your fellow officials out there want to wear rubber bands, be my guest. Knock yourself out.
I'm am most certainly NOT advocating that an official should wear a rubber band. In fact, I'm opposed to it. But not because it's "illegal".
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You're completely right. There's nothing that definitively states that officials can't wear them. My own opinion is that not only does it look bad for an official to wear something that a player isn't allowed to wear for safety reasons, it also looks as unprofessional as hell. And my association shares my opinion. They've banned officials from wearing them.

Different strokes for different folks though. Shrug.
I don't disagree at all with an association establishing such a standard and would support it.

The rules that govern what is legal for players only govern what is legal for players...not officials. As someone who is a stickler for a rules basis for claims people make, I'm a bit suprised that you're using player rules as a basis for what officials wear. Again, I agree in principle with what you think is appropriate and believe that such restrictions are reasonable for an association to establish, but my reasons are strictly about looking professionial....not because player's can't.
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 01:38pm
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The wearing of rubber bands by players was banned by the NFHS for safety reasons. If that's not a concern of you or your association, so be it. Hey, if you or any of your fellow officials out there want to wear rubber bands, be my guest. Knock yourself out. You're completely right. There's nothing that definitively states that officials can't wear them. My own opinion is that not only does it look bad for an official to wear something that a player isn't allowed to wear for safety reasons, it also looks as unprofessional as hell. And my association shares my opinion. They've banned officials from wearing them.

Different strokes for different folks though. Shrug.
Agreed with your Post JR, but was wondering how you feel about wedding bands for officials? I can't take mine off even if I wanted to.
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 01:57pm
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I generally leave mine on. My wife doesn't care, because the imprint on my finger is already permanent.
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I generally leave mine on. My wife doesn't care, because the imprint on my finger is already permanent.

So is the ring through my nose as well as the chain that my wife uses to lead me around.

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Agreed with your Post JR, but was wondering how you feel about wedding bands for officials? I can't take mine off even if I wanted to.
There's always one exception to every rule. And wedding rings might be that exception(for officials). That's one thing that I'd never dream of asking anybody to remove.

Smokey, again this is jmo but I think that officials just look much more competent and professional if they're not fooling around with rubber bands, objects in their pockets, doo-dads on their whistles, etc. Geeze, why not go all the way and wear an arrow around your neck on a chain? It just ain't that hard to mentally keep track of the arrow.
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 02:19pm
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Geeze, why not go all the way and wear an arrow around your neck on a chain? It just ain't that hard to mentally keep track of the arrow.
Nah, I think the arrow through the head is more appropriate!
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 02:30pm
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Nah, I think the arrow through the head is more appropriate!
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Now I have a question for you. I think that you posted once that you were a fireman. If so, do you feel that your training also gave you an advantage when it came to officiating?
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Now I have a question for you. I think that you posted once that you were a fireman. If so, do you feel that your training also gave you an advantage when it came to officiating?
I can't say that it did. I started officiating when I was in High School way before I even had an incling to become a firefighter. I do think that my confidence is directly related to my ability to effectively do both jobs however.
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Nah, I think the arrow through the head is more appropriate!
I wouldn't mind wearing this at the table.
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[QUOTE=Camron Rust]So? What does that have to do with officials? We wear other equipment that would be illegal for players to wear....a lanyard.

C. Rust, I agreed with you up until you said a lanyard was illegal for officials to wear. I draw you attention to page 14 of 2007-2009 Official Manual.
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 08:35pm
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C. Rust, I agreed with you up until you said a lanyard was illegal for officials to wear. I draw you attention to page 14 of 2007-2009 Official Manual.
I'm pretty sure Camron was saying that it's legal for officials while being illegal for players...
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 08:37pm
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I'm pretty sure Camron was saying that it's legal for officials while being illegal for players...

Correct. missed it
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