The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 10:10am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,910
Clock habits

So, going into my second season of JUCO ball, one of my focus points as an official is to get better at knowing where the clock (something I do an ok job of with hs, but I need to be much more consistent) and shot clock are on every whistle. I have an intra squad game tomorrow night that will be a great opportunity to work on this so here's what I'm asking of you veterans. I have it drilled into my head since I first became an official that you make eye contact with your partners every time you hear a whistle or blow yours. Do you folks look at the clock before or after you make your eye contact? I'm trying to get a clear order in my mind so I can really focus on doing it every time. Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 10:27am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Just north of hell
Posts: 9,250
Send a message via AIM to Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally Posted by Junker
Do you folks look at the clock before or after you make your eye contact? I'm trying to get a clear order in my mind so I can really focus on doing it every time. Thanks.
Table, clocks, partners, ball in play.

I also steal a glance at the clocks if possible when there's not much going on in my area, not just on a whistle. A good time to do this is when you're rotating from T to C, but it's not limited to then only.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 10:33am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 86
I'm old, but not a long time veteran (5 years), but this is something I've also put an emphasis on this year (actually starting in camps last summer).

When one of my partners blows the whistle, I take a quick look at the clock (note the time and make sure it has stopped). Then I'll make sure my partners and I know what's going on (foul or violation).

When I blow my whistle and I hear another one, too, then I am first looking at my partners to see what they've got (don't want to have a blarge), then I'll check the clock.

It's becoming a habit and I don't have to think about it much anymore (in fact, it feels odd writing the sequence out). Think about how focused we are on the clock in the last minute of a period or game. We are always aware of the time and who has the clock (at least we should be). It's the same thing without thinking about who has the clock.

Hope this helps.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 10:57am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,910
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Table, clocks, partners, ball in play.

I also steal a glance at the clocks if possible when there's not much going on in my area, not just on a whistle. A good time to do this is when you're rotating from T to C, but it's not limited to then only.
Thanks Dan. That's exactly what I'm looking for. Now you brought up looking at the table first. That's new for me. What are you looking for? Just making eye contact? I'd just never heard of this part.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 11:00am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Fishers, IN
Posts: 486
This is a good topic...an are that I will admit I'm not good at...or I guess I should say not consistent at...It's an area of focus that I could use some work on Hey, I got plenty of games to put it into practice!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 11:22am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Just north of hell
Posts: 9,250
Send a message via AIM to Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally Posted by Junker
Thanks Dan. That's exactly what I'm looking for. Now you brought up looking at the table first. That's new for me. What are you looking for? Just making eye contact? I'd just never heard of this part.
Subs. Confusion or concern on the part of the table people. If on the air to make sure we're good to go. That kind of stuff.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 11:43am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 86
Dan has a great point. I was also taught to look at the table at every dead ball for substitutions. I forgot to mention that. It is definitely a good habit to get in to.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 11:46am
Lighten up, Francis.
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,667
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Subs. Confusion or concern on the part of the table people. If on the air to make sure we're good to go. That kind of stuff.
I may certainly be wrong here, but I think the original poster is asking about checking the clock when he stops play, not when he's ready to put the ball back in play.

I would certainly check the table for subs before putting the ball back in play, but my first look is never at the table when I'm stopping play. I usually get my shooter first, then get the clock. If there's no shot in the play, I will try to check the clock immediately.

Sometimes there's confusion about what's being called with a double whistle, and then sometimes I am more concerned with making sure I'm on the same page as my partner before I check the clock.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 11:53am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,910
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrapper1
I may certainly be wrong here, but I think the original poster is asking about checking the clock when he stops play, not when he's ready to put the ball back in play.

I would certainly check the table for subs before putting the ball back in play, but my first look is never at the table when I'm stopping play. I usually get my shooter first, then get the clock. If there's no shot in the play, I will try to check the clock immediately.

Sometimes there's confusion about what's being called with a double whistle, and then sometimes I am more concerned with making sure I'm on the same page as my partner before I check the clock.
Yes, I was talking about stopping play. That's why I asked about the table. My fault for not being specific in the OP. You'd think I'd know to be specific by now.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 12:21pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Just north of hell
Posts: 9,250
Send a message via AIM to Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrapper1
I may certainly be wrong here, but I think the original poster is asking about checking the clock when he stops play, not when he's ready to put the ball back in play.
You're right, I was thinking in terms of putting the ball back in play.

When the whistle blows focus on the players then grab the clocks.

Certainly no need to look at the table on a whistle.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 12:50pm
certified Hot Mom tester
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
Exclamation

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junker
So, going into my second season of JUCO ball, one of my focus points as an official is to get better at knowing where the clock (something I do an ok job of with hs, but I need to be much more consistent) and shot clock are on every whistle.
You mean the clocks move around during the game!?!?!?!?

__________________
Yom HaShoah
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 12:57pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,910
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
You mean the clocks move around during the game!?!?!?!?

By moving around are you talking about the hands on the game clock going in a circle back when you starting officiating?
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 01:14pm
certified Hot Mom tester
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
Quote:
Originally Posted by Junker
By moving around are you talking about the hands on the game clock going in a circle back when you starting officiating?
No - when I started, all the games were outdoors because all we had were sundials.

__________________
Yom HaShoah
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 03:07pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,910
I bet the uniform points of emphasis were much easier to enforce in the sun dial era. I think I'd stick to working women's games under those.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 03:11pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Junker
I bet the uniform points of emphasis were much easier to enforce in the sun dial era. I think I'd stick to working women's games under those.
Loin cloth restrictions?

I know I'm going to regret this one.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bad Habits ref18 Basketball 22 Mon Feb 14, 2005 03:20pm
Old habits die hard ref18 Basketball 24 Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:23pm
Study Habits garote Basketball 16 Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:42pm
Chopping clock vs. starting clock Danvrapp Basketball 12 Mon Feb 02, 2004 08:54pm
Bad Habits ChuckElias Basketball 2 Fri Jan 11, 2002 12:28pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:36am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1