Odd out of bounds plays?

[daveg144]

I've thought up a couple odd out of bounds plays...

1. After a made basket, A will be inbounding the ball. We all know that if two players are out of bounds on the endline they can pass the ball to one another (until the 5 second count expires). However, can A1 throw a BOUNCE PASS to A2? The bounce pass remains entirely OUT OF BOUNDS. Legal?

2. Can a player who is inbounding the ball dribble it (assuming the dribble is completely out of bounds)?

3. Can you have two players out of bounds on a throw in pass the ball anywhere or just under the basket? In other words, could they line up on the sideline and do this? If the throw in spot is at mid-court, could they pass back (out of bounds) to a teammate standing (out of bounds) at the free throw line extended?

Never seen any of this happen and I can't find it anywhere in the rule book.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by daveg144

I've thought up a couple odd out of bounds plays...

1. After a made basket, A will be inbounding the ball. We all know that if two players are out of bounds on the endline they can pass the ball to one another (until the 5 second count expires). However, can A1 throw a BOUNCE PASS to A2? The bounce pass remains entirely OUT OF BOUNDS. Legal?

2. Can a player who is inbounding the ball dribble it (assuming the dribble is completely out of bounds)?

3. Can you have two players out of bounds on a throw in pass the ball anywhere or just under the basket? In other words, could they line up on the sideline and do this? If the throw in spot is at mid-court, could they pass back (out of bounds) to a teammate standing (out of bounds) at the free throw line extended?

Never seen any of this happen and I can't find it anywhere in the rule book.

1 = Yes
2 = Yes
3 = You have a violation on the offense here - you can't have two players out of bounds other than on the end line following a made basket....all others are designated spot throw ins...

[Nevadaref]

Answers are in red.

Originally Posted by daveg144

I've thought up a couple odd out of bounds plays...

1. After a made basket, A will be inbounding the ball. We all know that if two players are out of bounds on the endline they can pass the ball to one another (until the 5 second count expires). However, can A1 throw a BOUNCE PASS to A2? The bounce pass remains entirely OUT OF BOUNDS. Legal?
Yes, it is only illegal for the THROW-IN PASS to contact the OOB area on its way into the court. The OOB pass to a teammate behind the end line may touch the floor OOB.

2. Can a player who is inbounding the ball dribble it (assuming the dribble is completely out of bounds)?Yes, case play 9.2.2 Sit D.

3. Can you have two players out of bounds on a throw in pass the ball anywhere or just under the basket? In other words, could they line up on the sideline and do this? If the throw in spot is at mid-court, could they pass back (out of bounds) to a teammate standing (out of bounds) at the free throw line extended? No teammate of the thrower may be OOB during a designated-spot throw-in. (9-2-11) They can only be OOB for an end line throw-in following a made or awarded goal.

Never seen any of this happen and I can't find it anywhere in the rule book.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by kbilla

1 = Yes
2 = Yes
3 = You have a violation on the offense here - you can't have two players out of bounds other than on the end line following a made basket....all others are designated spot throw ins...

What rule says they can't be OOB on the sideline during a non-spot throwin? They just can't touch the ball while OOB.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

What rule says they can't be OOB on the sideline during a non-spot throwin? They just can't touch the ball while OOB.

His question indicates that the throw-in is at mid-court. Therefore, it would be a designated spot throw-in.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

His question indicates that the throw-in is at mid-court. Therefore, it would be a designated spot throw-in.

Well now, you're correct. I read it too quickly.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

What rule says they can't be OOB on the sideline during a non-spot throwin? They just can't touch the ball while OOB.

Leaving the court for an un-authorized reason, don't have the cite with me...I assume you are talking about a teammate of the player inbounding the ball?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by kbilla

Leaving the court for an un-authorized reason, don't have the cite with me...I assume you are talking about a teammate of the player inbounding the ball?

Never really thought about that, but a player going OOB anywhere but the end-line during an end-line throw-in could be called for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason...

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Never really thought about that, but a player going OOB anywhere but the end-line during an end-line throw-in could be called for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason...

you would be correct....other than the inbounder obviously...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Never really thought about that, but a player going OOB anywhere but the end-line during an end-line throw-in could be called for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason...

Only if you'd call it while the ball is live in bounds. IOW, if a player cuts hard to the sideline and over runs the sideline trying to stop, no call.
If, however, he steps out of bounds as some sort of designed play you've probably got a call here. I was thinking about the same thing earlier, trying to figure if it worked here or not.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by kbilla

...other than the inbounder obviously...

Well, the inbounder couldn't be OOB on the sideline anyway, unless he/she had to go retrieve the ball there. And all 5 members of Team A could be OOB on the end-line, just not on the sideline.

When someone actually calls this, please come post. That will be a fun day.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Only if you'd call it while the ball is live in bounds. IOW, if a player cuts hard to the sideline and over runs the sideline trying to stop, no call.
If, however, he steps out of bounds as some sort of designed play you've probably got a call here. I was thinking about the same thing earlier, trying to figure if it worked here or not.

Sure, it would have to be the same way. I'm only calling it if the player really leaves the court. Trying to get open, cutting, and stepping on the sideline doesn't meet my definition of "...leave the floor..."

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Well, the inbounder couldn't be OOB on the sideline anyway, unless he/she had to go retrieve the ball there. And all 5 members of Team A could be OOB on the end-line, just not on the sideline.

When someone actually calls this, please come post. That will be a fun day.

when somebody calls what, a violation for leaving for an unauthorized reason?? i have called this a ton of times, although i don't think i have ever seen two players out of bounds on a sideline throw-in...not sure why they would do this?

what do you mean the inbounder couldn't be OOB on the sideline? where else would they be??

[kbilla]

[QUOTE=Snaqwells]Only if you'd call it while the ball is live in bounds.

in bounds? i thought it only needed to be a live ball situation...if it needed to be in bounds then we would not have a violation during a spot throw in when a teammate is out of bounds...which we do i believe?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by kbilla

...if it needed to be in bounds then we would not have a violation during a spot throw in when a teammate is out of bounds...

Actually, that is a separate rules violation: 9-2-11: No teammate of the thrower shall be out of bounds after a designated-spot throw-in begins.