running out of bounds, screen

[lpbreeze]

this goes to 9-3-3 C. I think it is a violation but in this case it is A going out of bounds instead of B. A-2 sets screen near end line for A-1 and A-1 uses screen and goes out of bounds. official says rules violation.

Is that right, if not then would A be ok going out of bounds along with B following?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

this goes to 9-3-3 C. I think it is a violation but in this case it is A going out of bounds instead of B. A-2 sets screen near end line for A-1 and A-1 uses screen and goes out of bounds. official says rules violation.

Is that right, if not then would A be ok going out of bounds along with B following?

Had this a few years ago in a tournament final. A-1 catches a pass when back IB and nails a 3. Haha - ya right. I killed the play before the swoosh and rang him up.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

this goes to 9-3-3 C. I think it is a violation but in this case it is A going out of bounds instead of B. A-2 sets screen near end line for A-1 and A-1 uses screen and goes out of bounds. official says rules violation.

Is that right, if not then would A be ok going out of bounds along with B following?

Yes, calling the violation is the right thing to do here. It is not ok for either A or B to go out of bounds intentionally. It is a violation in both situations

[lpbreeze]

it also says as soon as A-1 steps out of bounds a violation is called. If there is a delay then it would be a violation for sure. I'm just not positive if you call it right away. I was leaning to yes it is a violation but now I can think of times when I ran out of bounds using a screen so I think it might be legal

[lpbreeze]

ok I didn't see your two posts.

So there are times when you can run out of bounds but in this case because A-1 in using the screen has to go out of bounds he is getting an advantage so a violation..

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

it also says as soon as A-1 steps out of bounds a violation is called. If there is a delay then it would be a violation for sure. I'm just not positive if you call it right away. I was leaning to yes it is a violation but now I can think of times when I ran out of bounds using a screen so I think it might be legal

In Fed's it is not legal for you to leave the court unauthorizedly.. I think:NCAA you can as long as you are not the first to touch the ball once you return to the court.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by truerookie

In Fed's it is not legal for you to leave the court unauthorizedly.. I think:NCAA you can as long as you are not the first to touch the ball once you return to the court.

Around a screen???? I certainly hope you're wrong.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

ok I didn't see your two posts.

So there are times when you can run out of bounds but in this case because A-1 in using the screen has to go out of bounds he is getting an advantage so a violation..

Fed, you can go out of bounds when your momentum carries you, and you must come back in asap, and directly. You can't go oob intentionally to gain an advantage.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Had this a few years ago in a tournament final. A-1 catches a pass when back IB and nails a 3. Haha - ya right. I killed the play before the swoosh and rang him up.

You were right a few years ago. Now it's an immediate violation, not a technical foul.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

You were right a few years ago. Now it's an immediate violation, not a technical foul.

Yup. Do you think they changed it because they wanted more officials to call it?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Yup. Do you think they changed it because they wanted more officials to call it?

That's the reason they gave.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Around a screen???? I certainly hope you're wrong.

Legal.

9-4.1: A player who steps out of bounds under his/her own volition and then
becomes the first player to touch the ball after returning to the playing court
has committed a violation.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Around a screen???? I certainly hope you're wrong.

Case book play 9.3.3SitB says that he's right for FED.Were you referring to NCAA rules?

[Nevadaref]

Because he's also correct about the NCAA rule as posted by Dexter.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Case book play 9.3.3SitB says that he's right for FED.Were you referring to NCAA rules?

I knew that what he said about the Fed was correct. I'm surprised it's legal to step oob around a screen in NCAA. Or am I mis interpreting?