Nevada basketball player

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

but I think it looks bad in a sense because the player is a victim and he's being kicked off the team.

He's only a victim of his own idiocy. Quit making excuses for him. He was told not to go. He went. He suffers the consequences.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

I will admit the coach was right in kicking the player off the team, but...if a rogue prosecutor gets a hold of this...hmmmm, coach might get in hot water. I'm thinking along the lines of violating victim's rights. The prosecutor could go after the coach for denying the player an education by taking away his scholarship, etc, etc. That's why I said earlier, it doesn't look good when the victim gets kicked off the team in the end.

Stop, stop, stop!!! You are KILLING me with this logic. Dude broke a rule. He knew there would be consequences to face. He wasn't kicked off the team for getting beat up and robbed. He was kicked off for being stupid.

[Adam]

To his credit, from what I read, the kid is not blaming the coach. He's owning up to his responsibility here.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

To his credit, from what I read, the kid is not blaming the coach. He's owning up to his responsibility here.

We'll see just how sincere his "owning up" is if he doesn't go out and hire a lawyer to try and get reinstated.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

To his credit, from what I read, the kid is not blaming the coach. He's owning up to his responsibility here.

From an article in a local paper:

Hanson, a solid 3-point shooter, was not present at the press conference, but the university released a statement from him.

"This has been a very trying past few days for me," Hanson said. "However, the real victims in this are the three people who lost their lives. I extend my deepest sympathies to their friends and families.

"I have enjoyed my time here at Nevada, and I am sad to see it come to an end. I want to thank coach Fox for helping me understand what it means to be a man. I thank my teammates for their support and also thank my coaches for their assistance on and off the court."

[Nevadaref]

Associated Press
RENO — One of two 19-year-old men arrested in connection with a triple homicide at a Halloween party over the weekend was formally charged with murder in a criminal complaint filed Wednesday afternoon.
Samisoni Taukitoku was charged with three counts of murder with the use of a firearm for the Oct. 28 shooting deaths of Charles Coogan Kelly, 21, Truckee, Derek Kyle Jensen, 23, Reno, and Nathan Viljoen, 23, Fallon.
Tauikitoku and Saili Manu, who police say crashed the college party with Tauikitoku, each were charged Wednesday with assault with a deadly weapon and with coercion for the beating of University of Nevada, Reno basketball player Tyrone Hanson, 20. Reno police said the killings were prompted after Tauikitoku bumped Hanson on the dance floor and then allegedly beat him unconscious and robbed him.
Chief Deputy District Attorney Dan Greco told the Reno Gazette-Journal more charges could be possible against Manu and that he is awaiting final police reports until deciding. The complaint alleges that Taukitoku shot the men one or more times with a .380 caliber semiautomatic handgun and that the shooting occurred with ‘‘malice, aforethought, deliberation and premeditation.’’
In the coercion count, both men are accused of grabbing, punching and or kicking Hanson as he tried to leave the party. One of the men, the complaint said, committed the act and the second aided and abetted the attacker by acting as an enforcer or lookout, or by overcoming resistance from the victim and or any other person.
Taukitoku is charged with pointing a gun at Hansons head and Manu is accused of displaying a gun to one or more people and trying to fire it.
Hanson, a 6-foot-6 sophomore forward from New York, was severely beaten at the party early Sunday.
Nevada basketball coach Mark Fox announced Tuesday night he had dismissed Hanson from the team.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

What seems to have sparked the whole thing is that someone bumped someone else while dancing.

The Baptists were right -- no good can come from dancing.

Originally Posted by jdw3018

There is absolutely no connection between his victimization in this crime, and his being kicked off the team, from a legal standpoint. Absolutely nothing for a "prosecutor" to do here.

Not if you're Mike Nifong!

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Since when is a college education a right? Since when is a scholarship an ironclad guarantee? And exactly how does getting kicked off the team equate to being denied an education? If you ask me, his education has officially just begun.

You obviously don't teach at the college level. I do...you can't imagine how many students think a college education is a right, not a privilege. BTW, if you haven't noticed, our "esteemed" President in Washington, D.C., seems to think the same thing. He's talking about instituting some type of No Child Left Behind law for post-secondary institutions. That guarantees college education is a right, not a privilege.

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Stop, stop, stop!!! You are KILLING me with this logic. Dude broke a rule. He knew there would be consequences to face. He wasn't kicked off the team for getting beat up and robbed. He was kicked off for being stupid.

I was just throwing a hypothetical. You obviously have had issues with devil's advocates in your lifetime.

[Jimgolf]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Since when is a college education a right?

What about the right to a fair hearing? I don't think the papers have mentioned whether a hearing was held other than Coach Fox speaking directly to Hanson.

In any event, Fox has arranged for Hanson to get an education elsewhere. It's not clear whether Hanson will accept this arrangement at this time.

[JRutledge]

I am torn. You really hate to see a kid lose and opportunity like this, but he was asked not to go out. There are rules you have to follow, but sometimes the consequences could fit the crime a little better. Then again we do not know the history of this kid and the other things he has done. Knowing that would give me a clearer view of what the punishment should be. At the very least he is still alive. There are 3 young people that cannot say that. Things could be a lot worse.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

What about the right to a fair hearing? I don't think the papers have mentioned whether a hearing was held other than Coach Fox speaking directly to Hanson.

In any event, Fox has arranged for Hanson to get an education elsewhere. It's not clear whether Hanson will accept this arrangement at this time.

He lost a privelege, not a right.

If Fox was going to put him in jail, then fair hearing would be a right. However....