Nevada basketball player

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Can you say "Double standard?" There, I knew you could.

What if the player did something before and the coach said, "I'm going to let this one slide" and now this happened?

When would be the right time to stop keeping score and make the player pay?

I'm not on either side, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

After thinking about it, I don't know if I could bring myself to kick the kid off the team unless this wasn't the first thing he's done.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

No no no. I'm a prick.

JR is the bitter one.

I want to be a prick when I grow up too.

Just saying........

[Y2Koach]

From the article: "Fox said Hanson already had been held out of a scrimmage on Saturday for violating team rules.

"He again violated our policy by going out socially that evening while he had been directed not to," Fox said."


So it looks like he was held out of the scrimmage saturday for a previous team rules violation, was told not to go to the party saturday night, went to the party, got beat up and robbed, got kicked off the team.

[Adam]

Okay, in all seriousness, I'd give the benefit of the doubt to the coach here. Coaches aren't normally in a rush to kick scholarship athletes off the team right before the season starts. It's not like he can fill the scholarship now; for this season.

If the kid was warned and went anyway, he risked exposure. Just because the exposure came the way it did doesn't exonerate him.

When I got back from overseas, we were put on a restricted leave during which we could not leave a 50 mile radius from our home base. Nothing really stopped us from leaving, but we were told directly, "If you get into a car accident or something and you're somewhere you're not supposed to be...."

This isn't all that different.

Originally Posted by Y2Koach

From the article: "Fox said Hanson already had been held out of a scrimmage on Saturday for violating team rules.

"He again violated our policy by going out socially that evening while he had been directed not to," Fox said."


So it looks like he was held out of the scrimmage saturday for a previous team rules violation, was told not to go to the party saturday night, went to the party, got beat up and robbed, got kicked off the team.

Based on this, cheers to the coach for actually having a pair...

I will admit the coach was right in kicking the player off the team, but...if a rogue prosecutor gets a hold of this...hmmmm, coach might get in hot water. I'm thinking along the lines of violating victim's rights. The prosecutor could go after the coach for denying the player an education by taking away his scholarship, etc, etc. That's why I said earlier, it doesn't look good when the victim gets kicked off the team in the end.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

violating victim's rights

There is absolutely no connection between his victimization in this crime, and his being kicked off the team, from a legal standpoint. Absolutely nothing for a "prosecutor" to do here.

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

I will admit the coach was right in kicking the player off the team, but...if a rogue prosecutor gets a hold of this...hmmmm, coach might get in hot water. I'm thinking along the lines of violating victim's rights. The prosecutor could go after the coach for denying the player an education by taking away his scholarship, etc, etc. That's why I said earlier, it doesn't look good when the victim gets kicked off the team in the end.

Serious??
IMO, getting the crap kicked out of him and getting kicked off the team are unrelated.

FWIW, it wouldn't be the prosecutor that would have an issue with the coach. It would be some greazy, liberal lawyer.

[Adam]

Holy Crap! Triple homicide involved as well? Also, according to the foxsports report, more hoops players may have been there before the fight broke out and may have also violated policy. Might be more dismissals in the future.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Holy Crap! Triple homicide involved as well? Also, according to the foxsports report, more hoops players may have been there before the fight broke out and may have also violated policy. Might be more dismissals in the future.

This is where it might get interesting - if there are other players present, and this is their first offense, do they stay on the team? Is there something in writing about a second offense of team policy merits dismissal? All things we don't know, but it's interesting to watch.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by tomegun

What if the player did something before and the coach said, "I'm going to let this one slide" and now this happened?

When would be the right time to stop keeping score and make the player pay?

I'm not on either side, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

After thinking about it, I don't know if I could bring myself to kick the kid off the team unless this wasn't the first thing he's done.

I seriously doubt it was the first thing the kid did wrong. But that's not the point...the point is that this coach had to be restrained by police from attacking an official and then was not "punished" or suspended or anything. And now he kicks the player off the team (deservedly so IMO), so it sure smacks of a double standard to me.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

I will admit the coach was right in kicking the player off the team, but...if a rogue prosecutor gets a hold of this...hmmmm, coach might get in hot water. I'm thinking along the lines of violating victim's rights. The prosecutor could go after the coach for denying the player an education by taking away his scholarship, etc, etc. That's why I said earlier, it doesn't look good when the victim gets kicked off the team in the end.

Since when is a college education a right? Since when is a scholarship an ironclad guarantee? And exactly how does getting kicked off the team equate to being denied an education? If you ask me, his education has officially just begun.

[tjones1]

I can't really see it being overturned. From what I got everyone (admins) is backing the coach on his decision.

Actually listening to what a coach says? No way...that'd be way too easy!

[Nevadaref]

One of the guys with a gun who has been arrested for the beating is the younger brother of a Nevada football player.

Three young people are dead. Two are arrested and in jail. One more is being tracked down by the police. A basketball player has been dismissed from the team and will transfer to another school.

What seems to have sparked the whole thing is that someone bumped someone else while dancing.

Simply a terrible situation.

[Adam]

According to foxsports, the dancer was the now-dismissed basketball player.

You're right, Nevada, it's terrible all the way around.