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Old Wed Oct 31, 2007, 09:46am
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Never do anything that you can't justify afterwards in a game report. And you sureashell can't justify saying "Well, I thought the coach was lying to me." Put the onus where it belongs---> on the coach, not the official.
It's not about lying. It's about using a loophole to avoid a penalty. What if the coach asks you if it's okay? "Mr. Ref, I apologize. I warned those two knuckleheads about that. What if I leave them off the list for this game? Do we still get the T's?"

I say yes, based on the intent and purpose of the rule.
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Old Wed Oct 31, 2007, 09:55am
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It's not about lying. It's about using a loophole to avoid a penalty. What if the coach asks you if it's okay? "Mr. Ref, I apologize. I warned those two knuckleheads about that. What if I leave them off the list for this game? Do we still get the T's?"

I say yes, based on the intent and purpose of the rule.
Nothing has changed....

You ask the coach if the kids are team members of his or not.

If he says "Yes", you hand out the "T"s.

If he says "No", you put their butts in the stands and they're off the bench until the game is over.

Jmo but it's that simple.
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Old Wed Oct 31, 2007, 02:19pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Nothing has changed....

You ask the coach if the kids are team members of his or not.

If he says "Yes", you hand out the "T"s.

If he says "No", you put their butts in the stands and they're off the bench until the game is over.

Jmo but it's that simple.
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If they are in uniform and warming up with the team it's 2 indirects and I'll take my chances with the state association on this one...
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Old Wed Oct 31, 2007, 03:04pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Nothing has changed....

You ask the coach if the kids are team members of his or not.

If he says "Yes", you hand out the "T"s.

If he says "No", you put their butts in the stands and they're off the bench until the game is over.

Jmo but it's that simple.
If they are not "part of the team", ask what the heck they are doing on the floor, and have the site administrator remove them from the gym. Non-team members should not be on the floor for insurance liability reasons, and if they came to the game in their own uniforms, pretending to be on the team, ran out on the floor to participate without the approval of the coach (and of course the coach would not approve of non-team members participating as it would be a liability issue), then they should have no problem removing them from the gym. Detention might also be in order. As a coach, I would not let my players put our team in jeopardy by costing us points and possession, and I definitely would not let non-players jeopardize the financial functionality of the school district. that should about cover it
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