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Old Wed Oct 31, 2007, 09:34am
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Originally Posted by just another ref
Fifteen minutes prior to the game two team members of team A dunk with both the coach and official as witnesses. When coach submits his squad list, he deliberately omits the names of the violators. Official assesses a technical foul for each act of dunking as team fouls and charges the coach with two indirect technical fouls. This ruling is correct.

I think something may have gotten lost here. I think the point of this question was not the definition of a team member, but whether the coach was allowed to escape a penalty by a technicality. Let's add some information to the original situation. Assume that everybody knows that these guys are team members. This is their second game of the day. You saw both of them play in the first game. When the dunks occur, the coach yells, "What's wrong with you two?? Get off this court and get out of my sight!" He then grabs his own scorebook and is seen using an eraser. He may even tell the official, "Those guys know better than that. Just for that, I'm leaving them off my list of players for this game."

Would this change anyone's ruling?
Nobody has gotten lost and nothing has changed. It's the exact same scenario. If the coach says that they aren't team members, you either believe the coach or you don't believe him. And if you don't believe him, you damnwell better be able to come up with a good reason for saying he's a liar.

Never do anything that you can't justify afterwards in a game report. And you sureashell can't justify saying "Well, I thought the coach was lying to me." Put the onus where it belongs---> on the coach, not the official.
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