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[Snap]

I was thinking about the different between a flagrant foul and intentional foul...?

I'm from Sweden, so here we only got the FIBA rules, Unsportsmanlike and Disq fouls

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Snap

I was thinking about the different between a flagrant foul and intentional foul...?

I'm from Sweden, so here we only got the FIBA rules, Unsportsmanlike and Disq fouls

A flagrant foul is a disqualifying foul. One flagrant and you're gone. In addition, the penalty carries 2 shots (by anyone) to the non-offending team, who also gets the subsequent throw-in at the division line opposite the table.

An intentional foul is not a DQ, but does carry 2 shots to the player that was fouled. The shooter's team also get the throw-in closest to where the spot is.

I believe that a flagant is like the FIBA DQ foul, and the intentional is something like a unsportsmanlike foul.

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

A flagrant foul is a disqualifying foul. One flagrant and you're gone. In addition, the penalty carries 2 shots (by anyone) to the non-offending team, who also gets the subsequent throw-in at the division line opposite the table.

An intentional foul is not a DQ, but does carry 2 shots to the player that was fouled. The shooter's team also get the throw-in closest to where the spot is.

I believe that a flagant is like the FIBA DQ foul, and the intentional is something like a unsportsmanlike foul.

There are small differences: a DQ foul can be personal (i.e., contact) or technical (i.e., non-contact); in the first case the offended player must shoot the free throws, in the second any player can shoot them. After that there is a throw in at the division line.

The penalty for an unsportsmanlike foul is two FT and ball at the division line; it can only be contact, of course. FIBA decided to drop the word "intentional" to clarify that judgment of those contacts must be based only on what happens, not on the intentions of the fouler.

It must be noted also that the FIBA penalty is one free throw if the fouled player scores (the usual rules about continuous motion apply). Not two as in FED.

Ciao

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

One flagrant and you're gone. In addition, the penalty carries 2 shots (by anyone) to the non-offending team, who also gets the subsequent throw-in at the division line opposite the table.

Think flagrant "personal" foul. Then, think again.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Snap

I was thinking about the different between a flagrant foul and intentional foul...?

I'm from Sweden, so here we only got the FIBA rules, Unsportsmanlike and Disq fouls

Are you asking about FIBA or US rules?
NFHS (US High School) rules:
Flagrant foul is disqualifying. It can be either technical or personal. If it's technical, the freethrows can be shot by anyone and the ball will be given to the free throw shooting team at the division line.
If it's a flagrant personal, the free throws must be shot by the player who got fouled, and that team will also take the ball out at the spot nearest the foul.

Intentionals may able be technical or personal. They virtually always involve contact, and whether the ball is dead or not is what determines whether it is a personal or technical foul. they are not disqualifying, and only involve free throws and the ball for the offended team. Who shoots the shots and where the ball is inbounded are decided by whether it's personal or technical.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Think flagrant "personal" foul. Then, think again.

Good catch! My game management techniques prevent flagrant personal fouls; so I don't recall ever issuing one.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Good catch! My game management techniques prevent flagrant personal fouls; so I don't recall ever issuing one.

You don't know what you're missing. They're so much fun.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You don't know what you're missing. They're so much fun.

I stopped doing wreck ball quite some time ago because of all the "fun I was having".

PS: Thanks to (I think) Padgett for using the term 'wreck ball'. It's hilarious!

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I stopped doing wreck ball quite some time ago because of all the "fun I was having".

PS: Thanks to (I think) Padgett for using the term 'wreck ball'. It's hilarious!

As much as I'd like to take credit, the term was already in use here when I joined. Of course, if it was here before then, it must have been so long ago that it was probably first posted by Dr. Naismith.