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Hi All,
Just came across your forum when surfing around today. Has anyone here had experience refereeing outside of the USA? I have been refereeing for 10 years in Australia and wouldn't mind bouncing a few ideas off you guys. Just remember if it is not FIBA, we don't see it in Australia..... There is no hallowed circle of exile painted under our hoops..... :-) I referee in our ABA (2nd highest league in Australia) and have refereed finals at numerous national championships. I would just like to hear a little bit about the refereeing scene in the states and has there been cases where international referees have been successfully integrated into the USA circuit? I look forward to reading your replies Cheers, Daniel 
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Wed Jul 14, 2004, 08:11am
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Oh, Duane!!!!! You still lurking around here?
Hi Dan, and welcome to the forum. Most of us here officiate in the USA, but you'll also find many Canadians here, who are familiar with FIBA rules. Duane is an official in Australia, but he hasn't been around much lately. Hopefully, you'll get your FIBA fix here.  Although, do we really need another Dan? 
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Mon Jul 19, 2004, 08:14pm
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Welcome Dan. Someday hope to visit your beautiful country.
I officiate High School basketball in Georgia (Atlanta). Unfortunately, cannot answer your question regarding international refs over in this country, other than Canadians. Attended camp in June and did a couple of games with Canadian (then US) trained official who was outstanding in my book. Other than letting players "camp out" in the lane, what are the major differences between FIBA and US rules? And why did FIBA change the rules? __________________________________________________ ______ "If you desire many things, many things will seem but a few."--Benjamin Franklin
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Tue Jul 20, 2004, 02:19am
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1) In FIBA there is no cylinder above the ring; once ball touches the ring, anybody can go for the ball.
2) Timeouts have to go thru the scorebench
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Tue Jul 20, 2004, 07:09am
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Welcome to the board Aussie Dan.
I have been refereeing FIBA rules in Canada for a few years. I enjoy discussing FIBA rules, just indicated as such or else most will believe that it is Federation rules (the ones used in US high schools. I once posted a FIBA quiz for my American counterparts. They took to it like fish to land. Cheers. Jay
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Tue Jul 20, 2004, 07:59pm
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No basket interference - that would be a definite advantage to American players since so many of them play above the rim. Can anyone tell me WHY other countries felt obligated to change the basektball rules. It would be like the United States changing soccer rules then using their rules as the standard in international soccer play.
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Wed Jul 21, 2004, 11:06am
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BTW, I referee FIBA rules here in Canada, but I do prefer using Federation or NCAA rules.
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Wed Jul 21, 2004, 04:47pm
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Jay [/B][/QUOTE] The game was invented in the United States by a CANADIAN! BTW, I referee FIBA rules here in Canada, but I do prefer using Federation or NCAA rules. [/B][/QUOTE] YES, good point Jay. Some other facts about James Naismith and basketball In 1891 he introduced the game of basketball as a winter indoor sport in Springfield, Mass. And in 1894, he introduced the football helmet for American Football. The 1st game of basketball was played on December 21st, 1891, after spending 2 weeks preparing the rules and objectives as an assignment. Basketball was an assignment by his mentor, Luther H. Gulick to interest the incorrigibles. He was asked to come up with an indoor game free of rough play for the football and lacrosse players who were restless during the winter. He invented the game at the YMCA in Springfield, Mass. The original object used in the 1st game was a SOCCER BALL HA! After his initial request for 2 small square boxes, the custodian could only come up with 2 peach baskets, which lead to the naming of the game. The 1st game featured much confusion and many penalties and ended in a 1-0 score. The 1st teams were comprised of members of a class at the Springfield YMCA training school. There were 18 people in his class therefore 9 played on each side. The game of basketball spread almost naturally s many of the students went their separate ways for Christmas and introduced the game in their hometowns as early as January 1892.
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Wed Jul 28, 2004, 06:46pm
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As you may have heard - I am the "resident" Aussie here. Although I have only just returned to refereeing after an 18 month break. Where abouts are you? I lived in Sydney up until 2 years ago, when I moved to Tweed Heads. Anyway, gotta go teach a class - but will check in more regularly from now on. Later
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Wed Jul 28, 2004, 07:01pm
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mick (just another seppo)
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Also, NCAA Men Supervisor of Officials Hank Nichols is on the FIBA panel, so the college game is creeping to the international game.
Big differences (reading): Free throws - If the free-throw shooter doesn't commit a violation, and it goes in, count the basket and ignore all violations by other players. Violations matter only if the shot doesn't go in. Also, if the shooter makes the violation, the basket is no good. NEW: Possession Arrow - Also used to start overtime. "There is no hallowed circle of exile painted under our hoops..... :-)" NEW: The European professional game under the auspices of the ULEB and the various European professional federations (source: Euroleague.net) will start enforcing the NBA Block/Charge zone starting this year. That league also has a jump ball under NBA procedures. Neither is used in FIBA. Time Outs are to be called, yes, by the coach, but only on a dead ball or when scored against. NEW: No substitution restrictions except in final two minutes of a game, after a successful basket, team scored against may substitute. If such team does, other team may. The Lane: Established in 1956.
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Fri Jul 30, 2004, 11:45am
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PS Thanks for all the info, Jack, I'm going to quote you sometime in the future.
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