Sloppy jump-stop??

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Vinski

If I understand correctly, a legal jump-stop is executed when the offensive player dribbling in, picks up his dribble then leaps off one foot and then lands with both feet on the floor at the same time. However, I’m seeing more and more of these being attempted with one foot landing before the other. It looks kind of like a gallop. Wouldn’t that be a travel? I never see it getting called and the times I’ve called it, I hear the groanings that I don’t know the jump-stop move.

I call this every time it happens. I don't hear "groans."

[Adam]

I call it too. I had one coach look at me like I was stupid when i called it. I looked at him (across the court) and took two steps in place to show him what happened. He understood.

[Vinski]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I call it too. I had one coach look at me like I was stupid when i called it. I looked at him (across the court) and took two steps in place to show him what happened. He understood.

I like that, Snaq. Mind if I use it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Vinski

I like that, Snaq. Mind if I use it.

Not at all, but no guarantees that it will work.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Vinski

I like that, Snaq. Mind if I use it.

I would pass on the mindset that you need to give a visual example of what you called. I can't imagine that looking too good on tape.

[Vinski]

When the poorly executed jump-stop happens, what do think about while giving the traveling mechanic, the official would also call out “illegal jump-stop”?

Originally Posted by Vinski

When the poorly executed jump-stop happens, what do think about while giving the traveling mechanic, the official would also call out “illegal jump-stop”?

While giving the push or hold signal for an (excuse me) over the back call do we say "over the back"?
I think the travelling signal lets everyone know the "jump stop" was illegal just as the push/hold signal lets everyone know "over the back" has been called.


JMO, after carefully reading 4-44 it seems as though a few factors have to be judged before ruling on a legal or illegal "jump-stop".

When did the dribble end?
Where were the feet when the dribble/catch ended?
Did the player land on one or two feet after the dribble/catch?

[Vinski]

When did the dribble end?

Sometime around the middle of the third quarter.

Where were the feet when the dribble/catch ended?

Attached to the legs.

Did the player land on one or two feet after the dribble/catch?

One, then the other.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

When did the dribble end?
Where were the feet when the dribble/catch ended?

To me, this is what makes traveling the hardest call to make. The definitions are very easy to figure out and memorize. But when the move happens in real time, it is often (especially with very athletic kids) VERY difficult to determine exactly when the dribble ended and where the foot/feet were when the dribble ended. JMHO.

[Splute]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I would pass on the mindset that you need to give a visual example of what you called. I can't imagine that looking too good on tape.

Sure it does and when the other Refs join in it makes an awesome line dance!!
seriously, this is just a small jester, imo, if it gets the coach to move on and avoid conversation, thats a good thing.

[psujaye]

If the dribbler lands on 1 foot and its the same foot they jumped off of, I believe it is a travel. If they land on the opposite foot, I considered it to be a 'big' first step. if they land on both feet, they must either keep both feet on the ground or jump off both feet.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by psujaye

If the dribbler lands on 1 foot and its the same foot they jumped off of, I believe it is a travel. If they land on the opposite foot, I considered it to be a 'big' first step. if they land on both feet, they must either keep both feet on the ground or jump off both feet.

Incorrect. They may raise either or both feet but may not place any foot back on the floor after it's been raised.

[psujaye]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Incorrect. They may raise either or both feet but may not place any foot back on the floor after it's been raised.

you're right; good catch.