Speaking of visible counts...

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by mick

Well, that's fine, but to start the count late "to avoid having to call that kind of stuff" seems to show a total disregard for the rule.

Agree completely, it irritates me to no end when I see counts that are obviously slow...this is no different to me than not calling a travel when a guy takes an extra step, if a team is busting their a**es playing defense you owe it to them to give them an honest count....that being said no count will be perfect, but just like you should practice your jump ball toss, you should also practice your count imo.....I do it all the time in summer league games when I can watch the clock and compare to my count coming up the floor...