Traveling question

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rwest

I don't like the phrase the "dribble has ended". It has always been a bit confusing to me. I always have it in my mind when I hear that phrase that they can't dribble again. But most of the time we use the phrase it means they can. Why? If I stop dribbling the ball the dribble has ended, but I can't dribble again. However, when the defense hits the ball, the "dribble has ended" and the player can dribble again.

Confused in GA.

The bottom line is the dribble has ended and it ended because the defender is touched by an opponent and caused the dribbler to lose control.

A dribble can end many ways, why would this be something hard to understand.

Peace

[rwest]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The bottom line is the dribble has ended and it ended because the defender is touched by an opponent and caused the dribbler to lose control.

A dribble can end many ways, why would this be something hard to understand.

Peace

It's not hard to understand. Its just that when I first started officiating basketball it was not clearly defined. Try to think back to when you first started. If someone said that the dribble has ended and they didn't further elaborate, would you not think, they can't dribble again. All I'm saying is that a different phrase or a clarification would be helpful to those new to the profession. The phrase "the dribble has ended" in my mind implies that they've lost the right to dribble. In many cases that's not true. But often times I've heard it said that the dribble has ended in this or that situation but they don't go the next step and say that the player can dribble again.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by rwest

It's not hard to understand. Its just that when I first started officiating basketball it was not clearly defined. Try to think back to when you first started. If someone said that the dribble has ended and they didn't further elaborate, would you not think, they can't dribble again. All I'm saying is that a different phrase or a clarification would be helpful to those new to the profession. The phrase "the dribble has ended" in my mind implies that they've lost the right to dribble. In many cases that's not true. But often times I've heard it said that the dribble has ended in this or that situation but they don't go the next step and say that the player can dribble again.

I see your point. Often, "the dribble has ended" has been used to equate to "no more dribble allowed." Of course, it's not always true that the dribbler can't have any more dribbles after the dribble has ended, but that can get read into it. You just have to learn to listen to what others are saying, and always ask yourself "WHY did the dribble end? What's allowed next?" And always speak about these issues clearly when you're discussing this situation with others, so that you're not contributing to the confusion.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Of course, it's not always true that the dribbler can't have any more dribbles after the dribble has ended.

Juulie - you know my son Josh. His son is almost two and Josh will tell you that the dribbler always has more dribbles after you think the dribble has ended.

[Splute]

Mark, I bet you are a blast to ref with. Every thread you post in cracks me up. You have a great since of humor. Which is very helpful in this avocation... or did this avocation drive you to this? never mind, your are on meds.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Splute

Mark, I bet you are a blast to ref with. Every thread you post in cracks me up. You have a great since of humor. Which is very helpful in this avocation... or did this avocation drive you to this? never mind, your are on meds.

Well, since you asked. I'm sure most of you would be bored hearing about my personal life, so here's the really short version. When I was growing up, I was always the youngest in my class (long story - never mind) by 2 or 3 years. I found the easiest way to get to be part of "the guys" was to make them laugh. I developed a sense of humor and used it as a way to become accepted. It's carried over into my adult life. Frankly, I feel that if you can't look at life with a sense of humor, what's the point?

BTW - if you like to laugh, check out my new signature and also the post I started on the general board.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

BTW - if you like to laugh, check out my new signature

A weekend wasted is not a wasted weekend.

I know where you got that, and I hope you're going to buy the book, because I want to borrow it! Sounded really interesting... (I would have used Mae West's quote myself -- It's not the men in your life, it's the life in your men!)

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

BTW - if you like to laugh, check out my new signature and also the post I started on the general board.

Juulie, what's Mark's address. There's a book I'd like to send him.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Splute

Mark, I bet you are a blast to ref with. Every thread you post in cracks me up. You have a great since of humor. Which is very helpful in this avocation... or did this avocation drive you to this? never mind, your are on meds.

He's not on meds nearly often enough! Actually, he's great to ref with, but not only because of his sense of humor. He's a good ref, and he calls things tight, but fair. He doesn't let any crap get started between players, and he knows how to be gentle and patient with those that struggle (including refs!). The only bad thing is when he starts telling the same darn jokes over, and over, and over again. It can get a little old. Also, if I arrive at a game, and he's got on his fishnets, I leave quick before he sees me. That's not a good sign at all!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Splute

Mark, I bet you are a blast to ref with. Every thread you post in cracks me up. You have a great since of humor. Which is very helpful in this avocation... or did this avocation drive you to this? never mind, your are on meds.

Mark's not funny. He's just a sad old man who steals batteries and can't keep up with where he left his teeth.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Mark's not funny. He's just a sad old man who steals batteries and can't keep up with where he left his teeth.

You can't imagine how hard it is to keep my whistle in my mouth without any teeth! That's why I have both my uppers and my lowers attached to a silver chain that is stapled to my forehead. It works fine during games, but I have trouble at the airport with the metal detector. In fact, last week I was at the airport and they told me to go into the men's room to remove it, but when I went in, there was some US Senator tapping his toes. I ran out and went home.

Now if I could just figure out how to charge the batteries in my meds.