Ever throw out a score keeper

[tjchamp]

This was 8th grade basketball, parents doing the books.

Every foul that was made against his team, he had a comment for me. After about 3 reports, I told him that he needed to keep his comments to himself, that he was an official and needed to keep his bias to himself. After a couple more incidents, I asked if any of the parents on the sideline would be kind enough to relieve the current score keeper. One was nice enough to agree to help.

The old score keeper gets out of his chair and starts heading over to sit down to watch the game. But he blurts out something to the effect of "If you thought I was making comments before, wait till you hear me now." At which point I gave him the boot.

Not sure if this was handled the best, but it sure made the rest of the game easier.

[CoachP]

I had my timer/clock operator get the boot last year. Exact same scenario.

p.s. He is also a registered BBall and Vball Official.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by tjchamp

This was 8th grade basketball, parents doing the books.

Every foul that was made against his team, he had a comment for me. After about 3 reports, I told him that he needed to keep his comments to himself, that he was an official and needed to keep his bias to himself. After a couple more incidents, I asked if any of the parents on the sideline would be kind enough to relieve the current score keeper. One was nice enough to agree to help.

The old score keeper gets out of his chair and starts heading over to sit down to watch the game. But he blurts out something to the effect of "If you thought I was making comments before, wait till you hear me now." At which point I gave him the boot.

Not sure if this was handled the best, but it sure made the rest of the game easier.

I'd've run him too. Good job.

[Jimgolf]

Originally Posted by tjchamp

This was 8th grade basketball, parents doing the books.

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Not sure if this was handled the best, but it sure made the rest of the game easier.

Well, you can't legally shoot him, so your solution sounds good to me.

[Mark Padgett]

There's always the old "Let's trade places. You come out here and call the game, and I'll sit there and act like a jackass." Works with coaches, too.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

Well, you can't legally shoot him.....

That's only true for the blue states.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

That's only true for the blue states.

Your comment cracked me up, JR. Actually, Oregon is a blue state, but it's OK to shoot people here as long as you use a hunting rifle, have a permit and you don't shoot anyone who's on a bicycle. Oh yeah - you can't do this in Eugene or NW Portland (inside joke for locals). Or, if you're a school teacher in Medford (another inside joke for locals).

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I'd've run him too. Good job.

I agree - have game management give him the heave ho (and no Mark, that's not a form of puking on his shoes ).

Absolutely no reason to put up with this......

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

that's not a form of puking on his shoes .

FYI - I've found that for some unknown reason, it's more disturbing to them to puke on their shoes if their shoes have laces, rather than being loafers. Dunno why. Maybe I'll do a scientific study on the topic. I'm sure I can get government funding.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tjchamp

but it sure made the rest of the game easier.

This right here tells me it was the right thing. There may be minor details for you to personally review and question: such as words you said or faces you made or who you told to escort him out. But overall, good job.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

That's only true for the blue states.

That's right: in red states, the "he needed killin' " defense still works.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by tjchamp

This was 8th grade basketball, parents doing the books.

Every foul that was made against his team, he had a comment for me. After about 3 reports, I told him that he needed to keep his comments to himself, that he was an official and needed to keep his bias to himself. After a couple more incidents, I asked if any of the parents on the sideline would be kind enough to relieve the current score keeper. One was nice enough to agree to help.

The old score keeper gets out of his chair and starts heading over to sit down to watch the game. But he blurts out something to the effect of "If you thought I was making comments before, wait till you hear me now." At which point I gave him the boot.

Not sure if this was handled the best, but it sure made the rest of the game easier.

Had it happened in a girls AAU game, varsity players. Star player, picked up some cheap fouls, parent at the table took it out personally on my partner. He actually started cursing him out, right there in public. Never had that happen before, didn't know what to do. Needless to say, he embarass the heck out of his daugher, and finally the host came over and replace him. Thank goodness!

Good job giving him the boot after that last comment.

[Hartsy]

Originally Posted by tjchamp

This was 8th grade basketball, parents doing the books.

Every foul that was made against his team, he had a comment for me. After about 3 reports, I told him that he needed to keep his comments to himself, that he was an official and needed to keep his bias to himself. After a couple more incidents, I asked if any of the parents on the sideline would be kind enough to relieve the current score keeper. One was nice enough to agree to help.

The old score keeper gets out of his chair and starts heading over to sit down to watch the game. But he blurts out something to the effect of "If you thought I was making comments before, wait till you hear me now." At which point I gave him the boot.

Not sure if this was handled the best, but it sure made the rest of the game easier.

I was really close to doing this last season. The guy at the table was very vocal, and shook his head every time I reported a foul on his team. I didn't hear any more from him after I loudly said "if I hear any more from you we can find someone else to keep score (scorebook)." Actually, he responded to that with "I only have a few minutes left anyhow". I should have run him then. I was just thankful he wasn't doing the next game I guess.

[rockyroad]

Twice in my career...once in a HS Varsity game, once in a D-II game. Both times had the total support of my association/supervisor.

Best one I ever saw was watching a buddy ref a HS State Championship game...his partner calls the 4th and 5th fouls on losing team's "star" player (both legit calls right in front of him) and kid's Mom is sitting at the table as their scorekeeper. The State has an official scorekeeper, but teams can have their own sit beside him/her...anyway, Mom pops off with some comment that makes the partner stop and turn back towards the table. My buddy was already headed that way as they were switching so he says "I've got it partner" and walks to the table and leans toward Mom and says:

"I understand you are frustrated, but you aren't allowed to make comments from the table."

So she asks "Well then where can I make comments from?"

Buddy doesn't miss a beat and replies "The parking lot."

So she got up and walked out of the stadium...

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Old School

Star player, picked up some cheap fouls

Wait a minute - I thought you said you never called "cheap" fouls on a "star" player. Oh, right - it must have been your partner.