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I threw out 3 scorekeepers last summer.
Was working a game at a school close to home. Scorekeeper was my English teach in high school, every call we made against them she would shake her heak or do somthing inappropriate. Finally, I call a block, she gives me that look so while I'm walking and reporting I just keep going till I'm at the table. I lean over like I'm checkin something in the book, and speak really quietly, "now Sally (yeah, by here first name, take that old English teacher!), you know you're on our crew tonight, I can't have you making comments and gestures on the calls, if you can't conduct yourself properly, I'll have you removed and find someone who can." You should have seen the feathers ruffle!!!!! Punk *** kid from school is about to throwo me out!!! She never liked my anyways, but we never have trouble now. CLH |
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I've only ever thought about it once. The guy was running the clock in a rural school. He let a few seconds run off after the whistle and I since I had looked at the clock, I requested that he put the proper time back on. He took serious offence at that. I assured him at halftime that it was not my intention to embarras him, and he was unwilling to make nice about it. And I thought country folk were supposed to be so friendly . If we had had a problem with him the second half, I would have probably dismissed him. But the it went smoothly from there on out.
Come to find out, he's the brother of a really great guy in my association. Go figure.
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Did it once; came close another time. AAU boys tourney. The scorekeeper was yapping at the opposing team's coach. After one warning, he did not stop...and was now threatening to fight the guy. After he was removed, someone tells me he is the varsity coach at a large school. Go figure.
Second time...the scorekeeper is "commenting" on every call against his team (usually with a quiet comment or a shake of the head). At halftime, my partner tells me he is not only the scorer, but he is also the athletic director! I can hear it now, "Mr. AD, would you please remove the scorer and replace him with someone who will remain quiet." Diplomacy prevailed....my partner announced to the "table" that they needed to be impartial for the second half. He was fine the rest of the way. |
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I threw out a dad that was working the table during a JH game I believe during my second year. I have not had such a problem sense. This same guy was thrown out later in another game by my partner for insensitive comment while his guy was a fan in the stands. This particular school was happy when all his children left the program and graduated.
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I've had 3 problems. Once in a MS game, the scorekeeper was shaking his head at almost every foul called on the home team. It was a blowout game and as the game neared the end the team behind got bumped right as she hit midcourt - tried to gain her balance - but stepped out of bounds - probably took 3-5 seconds. I called the foul - and the scorekeeper jumped up and said WHAT? I just pointed to the door and said OUT. Informed him that he WAS on my team.
I had a HS varsity game that the SK kept shaking her head on every single call - didn't matter what the call was, she didn't agree. I had a foul at the table and the ball ended up under the table - she shook her head in disbelief and I then went to retrieve the ball at the table. I leaned over to her and very quietly said, "If I see you shake your head one more time - so much as a nervous twitch, you are going home. Do you understand?" The other SK looked at me and mouthed the words "thank you". Finally, last year, my partner counted a shot at the buzzer at halftime and the student at the table made the "wave-off" motion. My partner RAN to the table and RIPPED him. Actually made the kid cry . . . then the coach of his team went over and ripped him more. As we came out at halftime, a member of the school board came up to us and chastised us to which my partner told him quietly get back in the stands or head to his car. Funny.
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Never had to kick out a scorekeeper. I have, however, worked the table a few times with other people who I thought should have been relieved.
I once removed a guy from the chain crew in football (ended up earning a 15-yarder and a trip to the parking lot) and did have my infamous varsity coach ejection where the guy came back claiming to be "game management." Fun times . . .
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Hmm, the stories I could tell from my side of the table. I'll chose my favorite three.
A couple of years ago, a MS Girls ref wanted to toss me for signalling 1 and 1 just because i wasn't the official scorer. Last year, i wished I was empowered to toss a MS Boys coach for cussing out our timer. He had laryngitis and was unable to call for a time out and told her to "blow the G* D* horn!" I yelled back "john, don't cuss out my timekeeper!" (He was my HS JV coach and is known for cursing like a sailor). he eventually apologized. If I knew he was coaching this year and thought I could get away with it, I'd bring my croquet cards with me and give him a yellow card if he cussed her out again. Several years ago in CYO ball, we played a team that had beat us by 20 the first time. Before the game, I even heard the coach make a comment to the effect it was going to be an easy game. But for this game, we had some new personnel and the game went down to last play. With under 10 seconds to go, there is a scramble in the paint and either a foul or jump ball call. The timer, who was a student, stopped the clock when she heard what she thought was the whistle. I thought i had heard the whistle blow as well. Anyways, the visiting coach runs up to the table screaming at the timer that she stopped the clock to soon. I can't remeber what I did; either I told him very firmly not to yell at her or told the official to relay the message. The officials did want 1 or 2 seconds taken off. But we still lost by one and he got his win, although it wasn't the walk over he was obviously expecting. :P
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I have never thrown out a scorekeeper, but I have changed the "Official" title To the other side of the table in a 2nd quarter.
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One more story
I forgot one more story from last year. CYO 7th & 8th grade girls level. We're on the road. I got a late start so i literally get there right as the warm-ups end. (I think the girl that was going to take place was relieved). I didn't have time to get full names for the opponents into my scoresheets, so I told the scorer I'd get them at halftime.
At halftime, I go to copy the rest of the names, and the book is missing. Apparently, the assistant coach took it back to the locker room at the half. 3rd quarter is ready to start and the book isn't ready, so i got designated the official scorekeeper for the 2nd half. Luckily, I keep my black & white top packed with me. Original scorer wasn't ejected, but now had no book and nothing to do for the rest of the game, except wonder when we'd stop pressing After the game, I let the other team's assistant coach know she was risking a T by removing the book at home games. She didn't seem to care one way or another.
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