"Stare at me all you want to..."

[BktBallRef]

No doubt in my mind that his *** would have been gone. But I would probably have let my partner handle it. Wasn't he nearer to the coach than you were, since you were at the spot?

Next time, remember my signature, not Dexter's!!

[DanIvey]

Just on observation but:

I believe too many of our fellow officials have what's commonly known as "Rabbit Ears".

They will be quick to give a T for what a coach said rather than how a coach acts.

It amazes me that some officials can even quote these long drawn out conversations of what a coach is saying too them.
Heck, if it's not a short "chip" I don't even pay attention to them. The same goes for when we talk to them, keep it short. There is no need for a long winded conversation.

Now, Hawk's Coach, don't tell your brothern that I'm not paying attention...because they probably think I am...I'm running down the court shaking my head as if I am taking it all in, when in actuality their statements are going through one ear and out the other.

BUT, if a Coach is acting in an unsportsmanlike manner...i.e. "showing me up"...he has a very short rope.

Someone said it is about credability...they are exactly right! You will lose the respect of the opposing coaches not to mention the fans, players and fellow officials for letting a coach get away with actions that demean your officiating.

In short, Whack um for what they do...not so much what they say. (don't let those ears get too big.)

Dan

[dblref]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
No doubt in my mind that his *** would have been gone. But I would probably have let my partner handle it. Wasn't he nearer to the coach than you were, since you were at the spot?

Next time, remember my signature, not Dexter's!!

This same scenario happened in a boy JV game last week. I T'd the coach, told my partner why and discussed what would happen if a second "T" was necessary. About 3 trips up and back, during a full timeout the coach came down toward the end line (I was trail and would be administering the ball), and stared at me. About 20 seconds into the timeout I told him to stay within his bench area. He made no effort to move and my partner then "whacked" him for the second "T". Problem solved. Sad thing is, his team was up by 15 and the assistant coach finished the game and never said boo to us.

[ChuckElias]

Just an odd observation. . .

I find it very funny that everyone here told me that I was over-reacting to the mascot who was doing his "blind ref" act. But now, you all want to toss this coach for doing, literally, nothing. He's going to stand there and waste his time-out and just look at you. And you want to toss him? I personally would just stand there and stare back. Maybe blow him a little kiss or something.

I often chastise crew (tony) for mentioning "how things are done in college", but this one example stands out in my mind. I saw this exact same thing from John Chaney during a Temple game. He was pissed, called a TO, stood 3 feet onto the floor and just stared at the official at midcourt. Stared at him for 75 seconds. Never took his eyes off him, I'm not sure he ever blinked. But so what? He looked like an idiot and then the game continued.

I would not have T'd a coach for staring, as long as he did it from the bench "area". I wouldn't consider that to be taking care of bidness.

Chuck

[crew]

chuck,
i know exactly what you are talking about, but you said the coach stayed near his bench. which i guess is o.k. he can use his timeout how he pleases from the bench, the play i am referring to is when he comes out onto the court. though i would probly address the coach even if he was still in the bench area. because ther are so many college officilas it is difficult to have consistency across the nation and some officials adress situations differently than others. how i stated previously is how i would handle this situation, but others may not handle this as i would.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Just an odd observation. . .

I find it very funny that everyone here told me that I was over-reacting to the mascot who was doing his "blind ref" act. But now, you all want to toss this coach for doing, literally, nothing. He's going to stand there and waste his time-out and just look at you. And you want to toss him? I personally would just stand there and stare back. Maybe blow him a little kiss or something.

I often chastise crew (tony) for mentioning "how things are done in college", but this one example stands out in my mind. I saw this exact same thing from John Chaney during a Temple game. He was pissed, called a TO, stood 3 feet onto the floor and just stared at the official at midcourt. Stared at him for 75 seconds. Never took his eyes off him, I'm not sure he ever blinked. But so what? He looked like an idiot and then the game continued.

I would not have T'd a coach for staring, as long as he did it from the bench "area". I wouldn't consider that to be taking care of bidness.

Chuck

Chuck,Don Chaney's used that one quite a few times.I keep waiting for an official to point at him and start laughing.Probably never happen,though.As for T's,I use the "pissed-off" philosophy.If someone pisses me off,it's a T.Otherwise,puke on his shoes and keep the game going.:

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Just an odd observation. . .

I find it very funny that everyone here told me that I was over-reacting to the mascot who was doing his "blind ref" act. But now, you all want to toss this coach for doing, literally, nothing. He's going to stand there and waste his time-out and just look at you. And you want to toss him? I personally would just stand there and stare back. Maybe blow him a little kiss or something.

My problem with your mascot post was that you stated you would eject the mascot for strangling a scorpion mascot at halftime. (Did I remember correctly?)

I don't have a problem with you ejecting a mascot who is demeaning to the officials during the actually game.

Beyond that, a coach is part of the game and is expected to conduct himself professionally. Mascots did stupid things all the time. That is why I would have more tolerance for the mascot, until "it" crossed the line.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Just an odd observation. . .

I find it very funny that everyone here told me that I was over-reacting to the mascot who was doing his "blind ref" act. But now, you all want to toss this coach for doing, literally, nothing. He's going to stand there and waste his time-out and just look at you. And you want to toss him? I personally would just stand there and stare back. Maybe blow him a little kiss or something.

I often chastise crew (tony) for mentioning "how things are done in college", but this one example stands out in my mind. I saw this exact same thing from John Chaney during a Temple game. He was pissed, called a TO, stood 3 feet onto the floor and just stared at the official at midcourt. Stared at him for 75 seconds. Never took his eyes off him, I'm not sure he ever blinked. But so what? He looked like an idiot and then the game continued.

I would not have T'd a coach for staring, as long as he did it from the bench "area". I wouldn't consider that to be taking care of bidness.

Chuck

Chuck, to my mind taking care of business means getting the
coach off the floor. That means walking over & telling
him to get off. If he doesn't comply he gets the T. I
agree you don't T this from across the court.

[Peter Devana]

I say again "its a coaching problem" and leave it at that!!
Don't get into staring down problems thats reserved for the maturity levels of the Lennoxs' and Tysons' of this world!!!
Pistol

[bluezebra]

Mark:

"I should use it when we get close to the 30-point forfeit rule."

Why would this be a forfeit? Sounds more like a mercy rule to me.

Bob

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by bluezebra
Mark:

"I should use it when we get close to the 30-point forfeit rule."

Why would this be a forfeit? Sounds more like a mercy rule to me.

Bob

Yeah; you're right.

Those damn semantics . . .