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Old Tue Sep 18, 2007, 09:30am
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NCAA Coaching Box POE

I just got this in my email yesterday. It came from "Senior Associate Commissioner" of my college association.

"Having just returned from the NCAA Basketball Officiating meetings in Indianapolis and while it is still fresh in my mind, I wanted to convey a message from the NCAA Basketball Committee regarding the new point of emphasis as it relates to bench decorum and the coach's box.To be specific, the interpretation of this new point of emphasis simply states that if the coach is out of the coach's box - for whatever reason - (other than when he's permitted to be), a technical foul should be assessed."

The emphasis is mine, but has anybody else heard this? Does anybody expect it to actually be carried out?
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Old Tue Sep 18, 2007, 09:33am
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Old Tue Sep 18, 2007, 09:36am
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Heard about it, but haven't gotten anything official from the "boss" yet. Can't imagine it will be followed that closely - how often do you notice a coach who is simply standing outside the box. If they are yelling and carrying on they get my attention, but just standing there???
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The emphasis is mine, but has anybody else heard this? Does anybody expect it to actually be carried out?
Yes.

We'll see.
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Old Tue Sep 18, 2007, 10:45am
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Then he should remember to tuck his clipboard into his shirt.
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Old Tue Sep 18, 2007, 10:55am
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Yes I do. Just like any rule you need support from everyone to do this.

I was told that the Big East specifically as a conference want this called very closely (before this POE was announced) because they felt the coaches were getting out of hand. And they have almost a zero tolerance for the coaches on this matter.

Now it takes for a supervisor and a conference to support the officials. Also the last year or so the Coach's association has been getting behind the calling of things closer than they have been in the past.

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Old Tue Sep 18, 2007, 11:25am
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I just got this in my email yesterday. It came from "Senior Associate Commissioner" of my college association.

"Having just returned from the NCAA Basketball Officiating meetings in Indianapolis and while it is still fresh in my mind, I wanted to convey a message from the NCAA Basketball Committee regarding the new point of emphasis as it relates to bench decorum and the coach's box.To be specific, the interpretation of this new point of emphasis simply states that if the coach is out of the coach's box - for whatever reason - (other than when he's permitted to be), a technical foul should be assessed."

The emphasis is mine, but has anybody else heard this? Does anybody expect it to actually be carried out?
No, I do not expect it to be realistically carried out. They need to drop this or step up and fix it once and for all. If the coaches being out of the box is a major issue for the committee, you fix it by seatbelting them or removing the box altogether, period. One technical and their butt's on the bench. Screaming for us to fix this when we have a multitude of other issues to worry about, is passing the buck imho.

Until they come up with a penality for officials not calling this, it's just not going to be enforce on a consistent level across the country. You can make it a POE every year and we'll say okay. I'll try to remember to mention it at the pregame conference so as to let them know, here's your warning. I see you at half court, technical. Right! No, what will probably happen more often than not is coach please get back in the box.

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Old Tue Sep 18, 2007, 11:33am
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Technicals won't be called, because coaches are too powerful. That's what I'm told, anyway. They might start taking away officials' birthdays if they try to call this too strictly.
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I think as soon as they drop a T on Coach K in the closing minutes of a close game against NC...then the coaches will know we mean business

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One of the things I have done and i will agree it's probably not the correct way to go about doing it, is if I have a lot of negativity coming from a bench, I will then enforce the box a lot tighter or closer. If a bench is behaving themselves and not bothering me unnecessary, then I will be a little more lenient or I simply don't watch it as close as the committee is recommending.
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Old Tue Sep 18, 2007, 12:03pm
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It will be very interesting to see how closely it is enforced in the NCAA-M game this year with calling officials going back to opposite.
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... if the coach is out of the coach's box - for whatever reason - (other than when he's permitted to be), a technical foul should be assessed."
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Old Tue Sep 18, 2007, 02:03pm
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I just got this in my email yesterday. It came from "Senior Associate Commissioner" of my college association.

"Having just returned from the NCAA Basketball Officiating meetings in Indianapolis and while it is still fresh in my mind, I wanted to convey a message from the NCAA Basketball Committee regarding the new point of emphasis as it relates to bench decorum and the coach's box.To be specific, the interpretation of this new point of emphasis simply states that if the coach is out of the coach's box - for whatever reason - (other than when he's permitted to be), a technical foul should be assessed."

The emphasis is mine, but has anybody else heard this? Does anybody expect it to actually be carried out?
About as enthusiastically as officalls are about calling a T in NCAA for not having players and starters submitted before the 10:00 mark.
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Old Tue Sep 18, 2007, 03:19pm
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If the coaches being out of the box is a major issue for the committee, you fix it by seatbelting them or removing the box altogether, period. One technical and their butt's on the bench.
I don't think coaches have to seat for college - the "seatbelt rule" is for NFHS only. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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