BktBallRef was right!! (Sorry, Nevada)

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

pssst...M&M...what's a semantic??

I can think of a coupla answers, but none of 'em would last.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So if it was not pertaining to the defensive player exception in 9-9-1, what was the significance of whether there is a defense on the throw-in or not?

Semantics.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So if it was not pertaining to the defensive player exception in 9-9-1, what was the significance of whether there is a defense on the throw-in or not?

There really isn't any significance. It's irrelevant to 9-9-3. That rule says that the exception during a throw-in applies to every player on the floor. The case play just further tells us that the exception ended when the throw-in ended, and only applies to the first player touching the ball on the throw-in anyway.

Make sense now?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

pssst...M&M...what's a semantic??

(I always thought it was a company that makes anti-virus software, but damn if I know how it applies to backcourt violations...)

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

The rule book disagrees with you.

9-9-3
A player from the team not in control (defensive player or during a jump ball or throw-in) . . .

I hate to say this, but I actually think that the rule you quoted argues against your position. If the opponent of the inbounder is considered a defender by the rules, then why is "a player from the team not in control" described as a defensive player or a player during a jump ball or a player during a throw-in? If an opponent of the inbounder were a defender, you wouldn't need both "defensive player" and "during a throw-in" in the description.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I hate to say this, but I actually think that the rule you quoted argues against your position. If the opponent of the inbounder is considered a defender by the rules, then why is "a player from the team not in control" described as a defensive player or a player during a jump ball or a player during a throw-in? If an opponent of the inbounder were a defender, you wouldn't need both "defensive player" and "during a throw-in" in the description.

You'd still need "during a throw-in" to allow for the "offensive" team to have the exception.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

(I always thought it was a company that makes anti-virus software, but damn if I know how it applies to backcourt violations...)

Semantics is the theory of meanings.

What's most unfortunate here is that some of you seem anti-semantic.

P.S. Why are you guys whispering?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Semantics is the theory of meanings.

I thought it was the meaning of theories.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Semantics is the theory of meanings.

What's most unfortunate here is that some of you seem anti-semantic.

P.S. Why are you guys whispering?

(To keep OS from hearing us)

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Semantics is the theory of meanings.

Oh? I thought it had sumthin' to do with male bodily fluids.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Semantics is the theory of meanings.

What's most unfortunate here is that some of you seem anti-semantic.

P.S. Why are you guys whispering?

Anti-semantic is the theory of being mean.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Oh? I thought it had sumthin' to do with male bodily fluids.

Oh, great, now Padgett will post images.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Oh, great, now Padgett will post images.

Sure, with that kind of encouragement.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Oh, great, now Padgett will post images.

Nah - too easy. BTW - next time someone at the grocery store, bank or restaurant tritely asks you how you are today, reply "misanthropic".

Gotta go now. Gotta expunge some bodily fluid.

I know - TMI. Sorry.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

BTW - next time someone at the grocery store, bank or restaurant tritely asks you how you are today, reply "misanthropic".

Hmm, have we met? Seems you already know me.

Oh, and stop telling me what to do.